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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by localhost »

davidy123 wrote: post #44

Slight meta, and part of a larger 'rant,' but when are we going to get away from reviews that might as well have been printed on glossy pages in PC Magazine in 1986? Anandtech has been at it since the 90s and hasn't changed their format at all. This is a serious decades-long stagnation of the web. The graphs should be dynamic (able to choose what scenarios and components to compare, and able to search within them), a…

Jupyter could form the basis of an interesting publishing pipeline for this kind of a review using various Python viz libraries. For user-contributed content, it would be interesting if you could "fork" an existing publication and add your own color to it. But somebody would need to pay for the compute and storage for this to work, as well as enable the kind of advertising / layout requirements that drive the business side of sites like Anandtech.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by lettergram »

davidy123 wrote: post #44

Slight meta, and part of a larger 'rant,' but when are we going to get away from reviews that might as well have been printed on glossy pages in PC Magazine in 1986? Anandtech has been at it since the 90s and hasn't changed their format at all. This is a serious decades-long stagnation of the web. The graphs should be dynamic (able to choose what scenarios and components to compare, and able to search within them), a…

Not trying to be snarky, but:

If you think that it’s be better - why don’t you make it?

I suspect the current format is the way it is because it’s easier and “good enough”. I feel if you reach out to Phoronix you might get a response.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by whatshisface »

davidy123 wrote: post #44

Slight meta, and part of a larger 'rant,' but when are we going to get away from reviews that might as well have been printed on glossy pages in PC Magazine in 1986? Anandtech has been at it since the 90s and hasn't changed their format at all. This is a serious decades-long stagnation of the web. The graphs should be dynamic (able to choose what scenarios and components to compare, and able to search within them), a…

Dynamic JS graphs sound like a pain, I'm not a professional user of this specific website, and I don't want to learn a new dynamic interface for every website I visit. Sometimes I just want to look at a chart. User-contributed data would be of limited value on a website whose specific value proposition is that they know more about benchmarking than the average Joe. The pagination is annoying, though.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by kilo_bravo_3 »

IanCutress wrote: post #40
Nokinside wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

7mm is so called 'commercial name' nothing physical. Million transistors per square millimeter (MTr/mm²) is better comparison metric than the commercial name for the process. Here is handy chart I copied from https://www.techcenturion.com/7nm-10nm-14nm-fabrication : Tech Node name (MTr/mm²) Intel 7nm (2??) TSMC 5nm EUV 171.3 TSMC 7nm+ EUV 115.8 Intel 10nm 100.8 TSMC 7nm Mobile 96.5 Samsung 7nm EUV 95.3 TSMC 7nm HPC 6…

It's worth pointing out that the value for Intel's 10nm is on its high-density libraries, not its high-performance libraries, which are less dense.

Are there any current products one can buy, regardless of expense, using Intel's 10nm?

I know there was one product, the Core i3-8121U, a very middling performance chip which saw an extremely limited release.

But it was discontinued.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by burtonator »

zamubafoo wrote: post #19

I find it interesting how desktop CPUs are essentially coming down to two enthusiast markets, developers/content creators/workstations and gaming. While the gaming market is (usually) seeking the highest top single core clock speed with respect to CPUs, it also relies on other expensive hardware. Meanwhile the dev/content creator/workstation market is much better served by these multi-core behemoths. Intel really has…

I LOVE that the gaming market has created a serious desire for quality desktop hardware.

I now build my workstations by hand and install Ubuntu. It's really nice to work on quality hardware!

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by jtbayly »

api wrote: post #30
zamubafoo wrote: post #19

I find it interesting how desktop CPUs are essentially coming down to two enthusiast markets, developers/content creators/workstations and gaming. While the gaming market is (usually) seeking the highest top single core clock speed with respect to CPUs, it also relies on other expensive hardware. Meanwhile the dev/content creator/workstation market is much better served by these multi-core behemoths. Intel really has…

It's like vehicles. Desktops/workstations and even most non-tablet laptops are now analogous to small trucks such as pickups. Tablets and phones are cars. Most people drive cars. Trucks are for work or people who like to haul stuff. Servers and huge workstations I guess are like 18-wheelers and locomotives. :) The "mobile is the future of everything" people were wrong. It's not that desktop is going away, but the mar…

Most people don't need a truck, maybe, but the three top-selling vehicles in the US are trucks. And in 2017 only 35% bought cars, with the rest being trucks and SUVs.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by dageshi »

davidy123 wrote: post #44

Slight meta, and part of a larger 'rant,' but when are we going to get away from reviews that might as well have been printed on glossy pages in PC Magazine in 1986? Anandtech has been at it since the 90s and hasn't changed their format at all. This is a serious decades-long stagnation of the web. The graphs should be dynamic (able to choose what scenarios and components to compare, and able to search within them), a…

They don't do it because it won't lead to any additional page views but will require extra effort.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by pg_is_a_butt »

davidy123 wrote: post #44

Slight meta, and part of a larger 'rant,' but when are we going to get away from reviews that might as well have been printed on glossy pages in PC Magazine in 1986? Anandtech has been at it since the 90s and hasn't changed their format at all. This is a serious decades-long stagnation of the web. The graphs should be dynamic (able to choose what scenarios and components to compare, and able to search within them), a…

Is the larger "rant" that you are funded by Intel, and their market dominance is drying up, and you find yourself attacking reporters as a last ditch effort?

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by bluegreyred »

davidy123 wrote: post #44

Slight meta, and part of a larger 'rant,' but when are we going to get away from reviews that might as well have been printed on glossy pages in PC Magazine in 1986? Anandtech has been at it since the 90s and hasn't changed their format at all. This is a serious decades-long stagnation of the web. The graphs should be dynamic (able to choose what scenarios and components to compare, and able to search within them), a…

the german site computerbase.de does this. they also do crowdsourced benchmarks for various applications and video game titles. I find that their articles are some of the best on the web, though you'll need machine translation to read them.

case in point: https://www.computerbase.de/2019-11/amd-ryzen-3950x-test/3/#...

you can press the button on the top right of the graph to show/hide other, less relevant entries. click an entry to lock it in for relative comparison. the top dropdown menu lets you choose between multicore, singlecore and application specific results.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Post by Koshkin »

awareBrah wrote: post #7
BubRoss wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's interesting but to put it in perspective I need to know how it relates to a human hair or how many times it can circle the earth.

About the length your hair grows in one second

I am sure you meant one microsecond.
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