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Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

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Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

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This leaves me with more questions as I have a cat that absolutely will not leave you alone if you're holding ANY fruit. She will cry and whine and do all she can to get to that fruit. Apple, plum, orange, grapefruit, pineapple, melons, it doesn't matter. She goes especially nuts for dragonfruit.

Citrus in particular is famous for cats disliking. Interesting that your cat enjoys those.

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

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post #7

Knowing this, when my cats desire something sweet that I was eating, I have always assumed they wanted something else they tasted in the food -- if ice cream, then the cream, etc.

Mine loves cantaloupe. I’m curious which part of that she likes other than the sweetness.

Exactly; its interesting to think about. One of my cats LOVES melty chocolate chips from freshly baked cookies.

When I read the article, I wondered what they could like in marshmallows, but looking it up I bet its this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshmallow#Protein

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

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Evolutionarily, this makes sense. All felids are obligate carnivores that rely on meat for nutrients—for example, they need taurine for vision, which they can't synthesize and is only found in meat. So there's an evolutionary advantage for cats to not want to eat anything else.

> there's an evolutionary advantage for cats to not want to eat anything else Do we have evidence cats’ ancestors had such a receptor? If not, it might be simpler to assume there wasn’t evolutionary pressure to not taste sweetness as much as there was a lack of any pressure to taste it.

Hyenas and mongooses are feliforms and can taste sweetness, as can all caniforms (I think). Presumably that means that the carnivoran ancestor could as well.

I'm not a biologist, but the lack of that gene is very conserved across all Felidae, I think (i.e. there isn't a single felid that can taste sweetness) which usually indicates that there's some evolutionary pressure.

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

#24

Knowing this, when my cats desire something sweet that I was eating, I have always assumed they wanted something else they tasted in the food -- if ice cream, then the cream, etc.

Many of the things that we eat that have “sweet” as part of the flavor profile also have fats as part of ingredients - those are things that cats do taste and recognize.

When one looks at cat treats, the fat component is higher than non-treat cat food.

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

#25

This leaves me with more questions as I have a cat that absolutely will not leave you alone if you're holding ANY fruit. She will cry and whine and do all she can to get to that fruit. Apple, plum, orange, grapefruit, pineapple, melons, it doesn't matter. She goes especially nuts for dragonfruit.

Cats are weird. My cats will gag if you hold fruit near their nose. Same goes with most people-food. They are interested in meat though.

When I was younger, we had a cat would get into literally any food available. Fruit, cheese, Doritos, salad.

Though, people are weird, too.

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

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post #4

Evolutionarily, this makes sense. All felids are obligate carnivores that rely on meat for nutrients—for example, they need taurine for vision, which they can't synthesize and is only found in meat. So there's an evolutionary advantage for cats to not want to eat anything else.

> there's an evolutionary advantage for cats to not want to eat anything else Do we have evidence cats’ ancestors had such a receptor? If not, it might be simpler to assume there wasn’t evolutionary pressure to not taste sweetness as much as there was a lack of any pressure to taste it.

> Do we have evidence cats’ ancestors had such a receptor?

They say that all mammals studied so far, including ones close to cats, have the gene except cats... This seems to almost demonstrate that cats must have lost that gene at some point.

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there's an evolutionary advantage for cats to not want to eat anything else Do we have evidence cats’ ancestors had such a receptor? If not, it might be simpler to assume there wasn’t evolutionary pressure to not taste sweetness as much as there was a lack of any pressure to taste it.

Hyenas and mongooses are feliforms and can taste sweetness, as can all caniforms (I think). Presumably that means that the carnivoran ancestor could as well. I'm not a biologist, but the lack of that gene is very conserved across all Felidae, I think (i.e. there isn't a single felid that can taste sweetness) which usually indicates that there's some evolutionary pressure.

The lack of genes for language, flight and laser eyes are also conserved across all cats, but I'm sure that those would be advantageous.

Re: Cats Cannot Taste Sweets (2007)

#30

Knowing this, when my cats desire something sweet that I was eating, I have always assumed they wanted something else they tasted in the food -- if ice cream, then the cream, etc.

I realize that raisins are not safe for cats and did not feed them to my cat deliberately.

That said, I had a cat that was absolutely obsessed with eating raisins to the point where we simply couldn’t have them around. To this day I cannot understand what was going on if sweetness was not a factor.

Same cat ate the tops off an entire box of glazed donuts once as well while we were out.

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