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AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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People had the exact same concerns when digital image manipulation software became popular, including the "we will never be able to trust an image again" question. To answer your question, I think the biggest step we took in adapting to the ever-present risk that an image may have been manipulated is acknowledging that it's possible. As soon as people knew that something could be faked, they realized that having a pu…

Luckily now people don't ever believe photographs as sole evidence in the court of public opinion, and always corroborate that evidence. Wait. No. I had that backward. How long has photo manipulation been around? And people still fall for it every minute of every day. I have zero faith these tech developments will lead to anything good, or that we'll even learn how to deal with them effectively.

> How long has photo manipulation been around? And people still fall for it every minute of every day.

People fall for headlines every minute of every day.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Images of us can be sourced from any number of places: social media, government surveillance, private surveillance. Video less so but from the same sources. Audio from phone companies, VoIP services, surveillance, etc. Health data easily from a number of private companies if you use new-age "health" services, or less easily (illegally) from health records. Maybe we can find solace in the fact that is or will soon be…

“Don’t worry, just about anyone can steal your soul and there’s nothing you can practically do to stop it” That doesn’t seem like a message of solace to me.

“When remedies are over griefs are ended”

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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You're way off on this one. A lot of those use cases don't work because texting is an asynchronous communication channel unless it's got some sort of automated system behind it. The reason you can't order takeout or make a reservation through text is because you come to an impasse if the person on the other end gets distracted and doesn't respond. The value in something like UberEats or OpenTable isn't in message pas…

You might think that, but when I was in Brazil, ordering food by WhatsApp was commonplace. The restaurants would, generally speaking, answer very quickly. Some would send you the daily menu every morning.

That is so nice! And I thought I had it made a few years ago when I lived two buildings down and three floors up from the best Indian restaurant in town and would call them to place the order then go downstairs to pick it up twenty minutes later. Calling. On the phone. Pfft.

The daily menu thing is especially endearing.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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“Don’t worry, just about anyone can steal your soul and there’s nothing you can practically do to stop it” That doesn’t seem like a message of solace to me.

The message is "Just about anyone could replicate your voice, its value in authentication is about as trustworthy as writing your name at the bottom of a letter"

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Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I live in Houston. I recently read a Houston Chronicle article describing very similar scenario. I don't have the exact link (it was from 2019), but here's one from 2013 [0]. Combined with the inability to verify the actual phone number displayed on caller ID has led me to tell all of my family to not ever accept a phone call from a number they don't recognize. There's literally zero trust in our phone system upon wh…

I’ll bite. Who is legally required to do that? Are they not allowed to sleep or be otherwise indisposed?

One I can think of-- people whose job requires it of them. Risk could still be to them personally if someone gets their number/extension/transferred to them. But risk could be on the business as well, which could just as easily be targeted by scams like this.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Find My Friend is so unreliable for me it is nearly worthless. Apple isn’t really delivering what I need.

Really? How so? I use it probably almost daily and haven’t had an issue, at least I don’t think I have!

I've seen it fail to update the location pretty often.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I once got a call while I was lecturing some students. It was repeated three times in three minutes - I assumed it was an emergency and stepped out. I was greeted by someone explaining that my father had caused a car accident, and they were calling on his behalf. That someone would need to send over some money for repairs or they’d call the police. Sure. They added that their cousin, the driver, is a parolee now hold…

> I can only imagine what I’d have done if I’d heard my fathers voice pleading for help. Hm... that certainly gives me pause, and my first reaction was to be very afraid. On the other hand-- it still doesn't hold a candle to pyramid scheme sales techniques. I mean in a lot of cases those involve your actual loved ones betraying your trust and love in order to sell merchandise for a third party. Yet somehow in the fac…

At least in a MLM sales pitch, nobody thinks that one of you is about to die. For that reason, I think the scam call is far worse than any MLM sales pitch.

Side note, it's not accurate to refer to MLMs as pyramid schemes... Even though they're legal, MLMs are worse than actual pyramid schemes (and I don't think most people know what an actual pyramid scheme is, which is unfortunate because they're fascinating).

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Given caller ID spoofing, they really shouldn't even accept calls from numbers they do recognize... especially with tech like this. Let it go to voice mail then return the call afterwards.

to someone that will likewise not answer any calls!

Chances are whoever just called you will answer the phone when you call back rightaway.

It reminds me of port knocking.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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AI can make decisions, create deep fakes, and now, clone voices. It may be that the next big business opportunity lies in creating 'anti-AI' technology just as it did with antiviruses in the 90's and 2000's

The only way to stop a bad guy with an AI is a good guy with an AI...

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I told my wife that if I ever mention while on a phone call, she should know that I am in trouble an unable to speak freely. Sound like we'll all need more things like this eventually :(

It would make sense to have another word that indicates it is genuinely you and you are genuinely speaking freely.

If you can speak freely you don't need an extra codeword to explain that you are using the codeword in it's real meaning. Unless maybe you suspect that somebody is listening to you and might learn your codeword from that.
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