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Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by GhettoMaestro »

p1necone wrote: post #153
scarface74 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing proprietary about Apple Pay on the web. It’s an implementation W3C Payments API.

As far as I can tell the W3C Payments API standardises the path from payment provider to merchant, but the customer to payment provider interaction is the proprietary part. I.e as a merchant I can easily integrate Apple Pay as an available payment option in the same way as others, but as a customer I can't use Apple Pay unless I'm using Apple sanctioned devices/software and have an Apple account. Other commenters men…

> I.e as a merchant I can easily integrate Apple Pay as an available payment option in the same way as others, but as a customer I can't use Apple Pay unless I'm using Apple sanctioned devices/software and have an Apple account. Other commenters mentioned it only working in Safari, and according to Wikipedia it only works on Apple devices.

Yeah. It is called the Apple ecosystem. Don't like it? Don't use it. I personally have been very satisfied with Apple so far.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by GhettoMaestro »

tingletech wrote: post #167
dkonofalski wrote: post #88

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The prompt that comes up to initiate Apple Pay has a section for the shipping information. If you click that, you can create multiple locations and addresses for each location. You can even create custom emails in the same way under the email section. Is that what you were doing and were unable to do it or was there some kind of technical issue?

I just hit "Buy" and it was bought -- I didn't get any prompt that I noticed except for "approve this on your watch"

You didn't pay attention.

I have shipped to other addresses than my main address on file with Apple.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by petre »

romwell wrote: post #133
ukyrgf wrote: post #70

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This is a really common fraud scheme. As an independent seller with little fraud protection, it's foolish to ship to an address that doesn't match the billing address.

It's also a really common thing that people do. Like, I buy stuff on Amazon for my parents, friends, and family all the time. Not to mention the common cases of shipping to work address, having multiple residence addresses (e.g. students who have a home and a dorm address), shopping while visiting family out-of-state. It's a really common fraud scheme because it's not uncommon for regular people to do that. Otherwise…

That's also why merchant sites have separate shipping and billing addresses. I bill at home and ship at work as I'm not at home during work hours when the courier arrives. And no, I won't install an Amazon lock to my door. If I can't ship to a different address then maybe the merchant doesn't want my money.

Also there are stores that do not ship to my country despite both being in the EU. They ship to New Caledonia (remote colony) or a poorer neighbouring country though. Maybe it has to do with lack of a VAT number and not giving a damn about getting one.

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Post by gigatexal »

techsupporter wrote: post #125
fireattack wrote: post #119

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People don't seem to like the additional "convenience fee" when they're paying their bill online, though :P (which to be fair, is indeed more convenient than paying it in-person.)

I don't like the "convenience fee" for two reasons: 1) I object to being charged to give someone money. If you tell me I owe you $90 and that you accept this list of methods to pay and I go to use one of those methods and you reply "oh to use that method I will charge you an extra $3.95," I am going to use the method that costs me an extra $0 because I already agreed to give you $90; you can work out how to collect t…

It’s rewarding a merchant for a service you like: I like paying with Apple Pay so I will encourage merchants with my wallet who do so. Eventually it will be the norm for merchants to take Apple Pay and Samsung Pay and AliPay and others maybe with a square space etc but contactless payments in real life and seamless payments online is something I want to advance.

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Post by gigatexal »

p1necone wrote: post #126
gigatexal wrote: post #81

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I am 100% more likely to buy from your online store if you have a simple checkout process that lets me use Apple Pay. And if you want an email to send the confirmation to use Sign In with Apple and I will default to buying from you over another provider. It’s as simple as that: I get far less spam, I know my privacy is being secured, and I get to support a company that supports the easiest checkout process ever.

As long as it also supports regular credit card payment. Being locked into a single companies proprietary payment service doesn't sound like a good thing to me.

There are providers that do this like the people from Square. As an Apple ecosystem user with an Apple Card (that I use almost exclusively) I just prefer Apple Pay but it combined with Sign In with Apple means I don’t have to give the merchant my real email (yes I know other email providers provide one time emails and such but for me the Apple sign in feature is much easier and convenient).

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Post by CaptainZapp »

pdq wrote: post #168

Pick your favorite designer perfume/cologne and look at the reviews on Amazon. (For example, Creed Aventus [1]). A large percentage will say "fake". I can't believe any trademarked brand would sell on Amazon, given they do not care to control their supply chain. It's a lose-lose: unhappy customers getting ripped off, and name brands getting disappointed customers of their faked products. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Cre…

You don't even need designers or perfumes.

Reviewers apparently even complained about fakes of this product[1].

I guess the margin must be immense, when you can have a knock-off manufactured for a couple bucks and then sell it for "half price" compared to the original.

Your "savings" won't lead to a happy kitchen experience, though.

[1] https://ch.kuhnrikon.com/en/kitchen-essentials/kitchen-essen...

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Post by CaptainZapp »

vkou wrote: post #169
pdq wrote: post #168

Pick your favorite designer perfume/cologne and look at the reviews on Amazon. (For example, Creed Aventus [1]). A large percentage will say "fake". I can't believe any trademarked brand would sell on Amazon, given they do not care to control their supply chain. It's a lose-lose: unhappy customers getting ripped off, and name brands getting disappointed customers of their faked products. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Cre…

The problem is that even if you don't sell on Amazon, Amazon is more then happy to let counter-fitters crap on your brand.

I believe you're right. But that makes me really wonder why any pimply faced teenager in Kentucky, who downloads a dozen songs illegally gets the full hammer of the law crushed on him, but Amazon can get away as a mass distributor of fake goods.

I wonder if they're more careful in Italy or France, since those countries take a very dim view on fakes, entities that sell them and even buyers.

Buying knock-offs in Italy can cost you a fine of EUR 7'000[1]

[1] https://www.godsavethepoints.com/italy-knock-off-goods-fine-...

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Post by dazc »

bduerst wrote: post #134
dazc wrote: post #6

Manufacturers are moving towards selling direct to the consumer and, although this is an obvious progression, most seem to be quite inept at it? (@davidhyde has listed a lot of valid points). That said, amazon's fashion/footwear is a bit of a hit and miss experience here in the UK. Multiple listings for the same product, poor quality own brand merchandise, branded products with very limited colour/size combinations,…

I'm not so sure about that. If anything, Shopify's more recent success is due to an expansion of consumers buying online from sites that are not walled gardens like Amazon.

I agree, Shopify has had a positive impact with small-medium sized merchants. Big brands with custom solutions however are not very impressive.

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Post by alialghamdi »

davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

Where I live, Cash/CreditCard on Delivery is very common, which helps a lot for buyers who aren't sure about the service. Yet, it clearly adds a burden on the seller.

I'd like to add to your points, especially for brick and mortar stores going online, make sure the shopping experience is good! Few of the stores we have 10x harder experiences in shopping and browsing.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by lotsofpulp »

p10_user wrote: post #136
techsupporter wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like the "convenience fee" for two reasons: 1) I object to being charged to give someone money. If you tell me I owe you $90 and that you accept this list of methods to pay and I go to use one of those methods and you reply "oh to use that method I will charge you an extra $3.95," I am going to use the method that costs me an extra $0 because I already agreed to give you $90; you can work out how to collect t…

I think you're missing the point of the fee. The company (Visa, Discover, Apple) that processes the transaction charges a fee (flat or percentage) for each purchase. This is why they add the fee. Of course apartments charge high fees for rent - they want to ensure they collect the full amount of their monthly rent according to the contract. A $50 fee on say 1000 dollar rent is 5%, ensuring they cover whatever Visa is…

Merchants do not pay Apple anything for Apple Pay:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204274

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