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AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I told my wife that if I ever mention while on a phone call, she should know that I am in trouble an unable to speak freely. Sound like we'll all need more things like this eventually :(

It would make sense to have another word that indicates it is genuinely you and you are genuinely speaking freely.

That would solve the problem of having to find a word that you would never normally use but could slip in to a sentence normally.

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I told my wife that if I ever mention while on a phone call, she should know that I am in trouble an unable to speak freely. Sound like we'll all need more things like this eventually :(

how do you pronounce the symbols? i mean, 'redacted' is already a pretty strange thing to say by itself.

less than redacted greater than, though it's clear he's keeping the real word a secret.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Images of us can be sourced from any number of places: social media, government surveillance, private surveillance. Video less so but from the same sources. Audio from phone companies, VoIP services, surveillance, etc. Health data easily from a number of private companies if you use new-age "health" services, or less easily (illegally) from health records. Maybe we can find solace in the fact that is or will soon be…

“Don’t worry, just about anyone can steal your soul and there’s nothing you can practically do to stop it” That doesn’t seem like a message of solace to me.

The message is "Just about anyone could replicate your voice, its value in authentication is about as trustworthy as writing your name at the bottom of a letter"

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I wholeheartedly agree. I don't answer the phone for unknown numbers unless I'm expecting a call from an unknown number; the expectation will have been set up via prior correspondence. Unfortunately, not everyone can do that. Some people are legally required to answer the phone, even if they don't recognize the number. And unfortunately many businesses only communicate via the phone system. So, unfortunately, our ent…

Why are there people who are legally required to answer the phone? On what grounds? Why? (Assuming private persons here)

For example: people who are entangled in the court systems are required to answer their phone. Even if they're not convicted and are out on bail, they still must answer the phone -- it could be their bail bondsman. If someone's on parole, they must answer their parole officer. So as part of the bond contract and the parole contract, you must answer the phone.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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People had the exact same concerns when digital image manipulation software became popular, including the "we will never be able to trust an image again" question. To answer your question, I think the biggest step we took in adapting to the ever-present risk that an image may have been manipulated is acknowledging that it's possible. As soon as people knew that something could be faked, they realized that having a pu…

Luckily now people don't ever believe photographs as sole evidence in the court of public opinion, and always corroborate that evidence. Wait. No. I had that backward. How long has photo manipulation been around? And people still fall for it every minute of every day. I have zero faith these tech developments will lead to anything good, or that we'll even learn how to deal with them effectively.

I don't think its so much that they fall for it but that people create fake images that confirm what people already believe and the viewers deeply want the image to be true and will not think critically.

Verifying an image is not impossible. You just have to consider:

* Who took the image

* Do they have any reasons for wanting to fake it?

* Was anyone else able to verify they saw or took a photo of the same thing

* Is anyone in disagreement with the content of the image

We don't need image manipulation to fool people on facebook. Recently a random image of a park full of rubbish was used with the caption that this was the result of a recent environmental protest but the image was actually months old from a totally unrelated event. People believed and shared it because they wanted to. You could just as easily write a text post saying you saw a bunch of rubbish after the event and you would have almost the same effect.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Nit: this is more design/engineering than science. There is no hypothesis being tested about how the world works.

Did you read section 3 of the paper where they evaluate their system? > We primarily rely on crowdsourced Mean Opinion Score (MOS) evaluations based on subjective listening tests. All our MOS evaluations are aligned to the Absolute Category Rating scale [14], with rating scores from 1 to 5 in 0.5 point increments. We use this framework to evaluate synthesized speech along two dimensions: its naturalness and similarit…

Evaluation doesn’t make it science.

There’s no investigation of the physical or natural world going on, unless they really think they’re modeling how humans are able to talk. But they’re not — they’re trying to create a system that works no matter how unnatural it is.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I once got a call while I was lecturing some students. It was repeated three times in three minutes - I assumed it was an emergency and stepped out. I was greeted by someone explaining that my father had caused a car accident, and they were calling on his behalf. That someone would need to send over some money for repairs or they’d call the police. Sure. They added that their cousin, the driver, is a parolee now hold…

What's your number?

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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I once got a call while I was lecturing some students. It was repeated three times in three minutes - I assumed it was an emergency and stepped out. I was greeted by someone explaining that my father had caused a car accident, and they were calling on his behalf. That someone would need to send over some money for repairs or they’d call the police. Sure. They added that their cousin, the driver, is a parolee now hold…

I live in Houston. I recently read a Houston Chronicle article describing very similar scenario. I don't have the exact link (it was from 2019), but here's one from 2013 [0]. Combined with the inability to verify the actual phone number displayed on caller ID has led me to tell all of my family to not ever accept a phone call from a number they don't recognize. There's literally zero trust in our phone system upon wh…

I’ll bite.

Who is legally required to do that? Are they not allowed to sleep or be otherwise indisposed?

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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>business texting You mean Slack?

B2C - not team internal chats. It will have “jumped the shark” once there’s an SMS button on the business listing that Google Maps displays. Instead of the wonky/creepy Google demo which did speech to text and then analysis and then text to speech relayed over to the business, every business will just communicate directly with customers over text. It’s not that this isn’t already done (to some extent). And more so in…

What is stopping this text-only paradigm shift from happening? What developments are needed before this happens? Why hasn't it happened already?

Twilio has given the ability to programmatically text anyone for years. Why hasn't this hypothetical B2C text business developed yet?

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