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Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Then they should also support Android. Apple isn't the majority anymore. Even if Apple Pay comes to others I won't use it. I absolutely don't think Apple has better privacy than anyone else.

There is a W3C standard for web payments. If the website supports the standard, it supports Android.

Did not know that. Thank you!

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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There is a W3C standard for web payments. If the website supports the standard, it supports Android.

Did not know that. Thank you!

Slight correction. It’s a candidate recommendation - not quite a standard.

https://www.w3.org/TR/payment-request/

And Apple implements it.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_pay_on_the_w...

Safari supports two JavaScript APIs that let you accept Apple Pay payments from customers on your website: Apple Pay JS, and the W3C Payment Request API. The Apple Pay JS API is analogous to the PassKit (Apple Pay and Wallet) framework, used for Apple Pay in apps. The Payment Request API is a W3C candidate API.

It seems to be supported across all browsers.

https://stripe.com/docs/stripe-js/reference

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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As long as it also supports regular credit card payment. Being locked into a single companies proprietary payment service doesn't sound like a good thing to me.

There is nothing proprietary about Apple Pay on the web. It’s an implementation W3C Payments API.

As far as I can tell the W3C Payments API standardises the path from payment provider to merchant, but the customer to payment provider interaction is the proprietary part.

I.e as a merchant I can easily integrate Apple Pay as an available payment option in the same way as others, but as a customer I can't use Apple Pay unless I'm using Apple sanctioned devices/software and have an Apple account. Other commenters mentioned it only working in Safari, and according to Wikipedia it only works on Apple devices.

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I don't like the "convenience fee" for two reasons: 1) I object to being charged to give someone money. If you tell me I owe you $90 and that you accept this list of methods to pay and I go to use one of those methods and you reply "oh to use that method I will charge you an extra $3.95," I am going to use the method that costs me an extra $0 because I already agreed to give you $90; you can work out how to collect t…

I think you're missing the point of the fee. The company (Visa, Discover, Apple) that processes the transaction charges a fee (flat or percentage) for each purchase. This is why they add the fee. Of course apartments charge high fees for rent - they want to ensure they collect the full amount of their monthly rent according to the contract. A $50 fee on say 1000 dollar rent is 5%, ensuring they cover whatever Visa is…

Yeah, I don't really have a problem with merchants passing card processing fees onto customers. I feel like those fees being hidden to consumers/spread out evenly amongst all payment options is probably somewhat distorting the market.

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Whether or not this is smart, I’m just here to highlight the obvious BS of this statement: Nike claims to be removing its product from amazon so as to "elevate consumer experiences." ugh. Fluffy Subjective Possibly wrong I don’t need a massive hero image of a sports star to order gym shorts or a gym bag. I’m just searching amazon for what I need. My "experience" is worse if I never even see Nike's products, not bette…

“Elevate consumer experiences”, huh? I also call total BS.

I’m not a sneaker guy, but recently tried to buy a launch pair of sneakers as a gift - only available by Nike’s store. It was a terrible experience with their storefront - crashing, erroring out, empty HTTP responses, app errors, redirect loops, self-emptying cart, etc. Finally got to chat with someone at Nike support after trying for an hour - sold out. They seemed completely indifferent to their storefront being a technical dumpster fire. Essentially, “better luck next time”. No thanks, I’m done - there will not be a next time.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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There is nothing proprietary about Apple Pay on the web. It’s an implementation W3C Payments API.

As far as I can tell the W3C Payments API standardises the path from payment provider to merchant, but the customer to payment provider interaction is the proprietary part. I.e as a merchant I can easily integrate Apple Pay as an available payment option in the same way as others, but as a customer I can't use Apple Pay unless I'm using Apple sanctioned devices/software and have an Apple account. Other commenters men…

You can only use Apple Pay in Safari. But if you use the standard W3C Payments API, a Chrome browser running on an Android device with suitable security will use Android Pay just like an Apple device running Safari will use Apple Pay.

Apple Pay is Safari’s implementation of the standard. Apple stores your payment information and uses the Secure Enclave for authorization. How could Apple ensure a secure path on non Apple browsers or on non Apple hardware?

What’s the use case where you would use Apple Pay as opposed to your hardware vendors implementation on a non Apple device?

Just a snippet from the standard.

https://www.w3.org/TR/payment-request/

This specification standardizes an API to allow merchants (i.e. web sites selling physical or digital goods) to utilize one or more payment methods with minimal integration. User agents (e.g., browsers) facilitate the payment flow between merchant and user.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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There is nothing proprietary about Apple Pay on the web. It’s an implementation W3C Payments API.

As far as I can tell the W3C Payments API standardises the path from payment provider to merchant, but the customer to payment provider interaction is the proprietary part. I.e as a merchant I can easily integrate Apple Pay as an available payment option in the same way as others, but as a customer I can't use Apple Pay unless I'm using Apple sanctioned devices/software and have an Apple account. Other commenters men…

Think of Apple Pay like a virtual credit card.

And so you can't use it without being an account holder just like with Mastercard or Visa.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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The issue is that Amazon and other 3rd party vendors actually offer deals. I was in the market for some headphones and had a specific brand and make in mind and when I looked in their site they were more than $100 more than Amazon. This has held true for me for a lot of items and even when using price tracker it is pretty much no contest to just buy off any reputable vendor most of the time. I think it's just that th…

What are the chances that the deal you found on Amazon involved counterfeit goods? That’s been a big problem with audio and electronics on Amazon recently.

I have bought thousands of dollars worth of electronics and stuff from Amazon. Zero counterfeits so far.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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As far as I can tell the W3C Payments API standardises the path from payment provider to merchant, but the customer to payment provider interaction is the proprietary part. I.e as a merchant I can easily integrate Apple Pay as an available payment option in the same way as others, but as a customer I can't use Apple Pay unless I'm using Apple sanctioned devices/software and have an Apple account. Other commenters men…

You can only use Apple Pay in Safari. But if you use the standard W3C Payments API, a Chrome browser running on an Android device with suitable security will use Android Pay just like an Apple device running Safari will use Apple Pay. Apple Pay is Safari’s implementation of the standard. Apple stores your payment information and uses the Secure Enclave for authorization. How could Apple ensure a secure path on non Ap…

Ah, I see. So if a merchant supports paying with Apple Pay, they also support paying with Android, or any other payment provider that supports the same standard?

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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You can only use Apple Pay in Safari. But if you use the standard W3C Payments API, a Chrome browser running on an Android device with suitable security will use Android Pay just like an Apple device running Safari will use Apple Pay. Apple Pay is Safari’s implementation of the standard. Apple stores your payment information and uses the Secure Enclave for authorization. How could Apple ensure a secure path on non Ap…

Ah, I see. So if a merchant supports paying with Apple Pay, they also support paying with Android, or any other payment provider that supports the same standard?

Yes.
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