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Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by lotsofpulp »

fireattack wrote: post #119
lotsofpulp wrote: post #111

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I would pay more to a website that offers Apple Pay just for the convenience.

People don't seem to like the additional "convenience fee" when they're paying their bill online, though :P (which to be fair, is indeed more convenient than paying it in-person.)

I would only pay more to invective adoption of Apple Pay. Hopefully others see and adopt it too and try to win back business with a lower price with Apple Pay.

I won’t pay extra convenience fees just for online ACH. I’ll just use my bank’s free bill pay service to mail them a check and they can deal with having to deposit paper.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by StreamBright »

rimunroe wrote: post #28
davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

I used Apple Pay on iOS to buy something direct from a vendor recently and was shocked at how smooth the purchase experience was. 1. Click "Buy with Apple Pay" button. 2. Double click power button on the side of my phone to confirm. I wish more sites would support it.

Same. Amazon also lost my trust. Buying expensive fake items is not something I would like to do.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by romwell »

ukyrgf wrote: post #70
anbotero wrote: post #30

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You know who has to suffer from this? International buyers. I buy a lot from Amazon, and I live in Colombia. While these days there are a lot of direct, global shipments from Amazon, I still buy a lot of things I leave at my aunt's house in Miami by the time I travel to pick it all up. I remember not being able to buy a custom Converse shoe on their vendor site because I didn't have a local US credit card. I hate it,…

This is a really common fraud scheme. As an independent seller with little fraud protection, it's foolish to ship to an address that doesn't match the billing address.

It's also a really common thing that people do.

Like, I buy stuff on Amazon for my parents, friends, and family all the time.

Not to mention the common cases of shipping to work address, having multiple residence addresses (e.g. students who have a home and a dorm address), shopping while visiting family out-of-state.

It's a really common fraud scheme because it's not uncommon for regular people to do that. Otherwise, we would not have a need for a "shipping address" at all: all the purchases could go to the belling address, right?

So, basically, you are exactly the kind of bad seller that ruins it for everyone else. Your inability to deal with fraud adds so much more headache to the experience.

I hope that, as an independent seller, you have it in bold letters on the front page that you only ship to the billing address. This way, people who you won't ship to anyway won't waste their time (and people who you won't ship to will not be inconvenienced anyway).

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Post by bduerst »

dazc wrote: post #6

Manufacturers are moving towards selling direct to the consumer and, although this is an obvious progression, most seem to be quite inept at it? (@davidhyde has listed a lot of valid points). That said, amazon's fashion/footwear is a bit of a hit and miss experience here in the UK. Multiple listings for the same product, poor quality own brand merchandise, branded products with very limited colour/size combinations,…

I'm not so sure about that. If anything, Shopify's more recent success is due to an expansion of consumers buying online from sites that are not walled gardens like Amazon.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by bduerst »

Liquix wrote: post #57
awinder wrote: post #52

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What in the world is a fashion-wear walled garden? I'm pretty sure you can wear nike shirts with Adidas tops, socks are like the USB-C of feet, etc.

Let's say a customer wants Nike shoes, has Amazon Prime, and does most of their shopping through Amazon. Before: 1.) Search Amazon for Nike shoes 2.) Buy shoes 3.) Close Amazon 4.) Receive (possibly counterfeit) shoes. If low quality or fake, perhaps think less of Nike. After: 1.) Search Amazon for Nike shoes 2.) Observe no Nike shoes in results 3.) Google 'buy nike shoes' 4.) Visit nike.com 5.) Nike promotes sweatpa…

> such as if Nike chooses to collect and sell customer/transaction data.

Assuming that Amazon doesn't? They have reciprocity agreements with credit card companies.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by p10_user »

techsupporter wrote: post #125
fireattack wrote: post #119

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People don't seem to like the additional "convenience fee" when they're paying their bill online, though :P (which to be fair, is indeed more convenient than paying it in-person.)

I don't like the "convenience fee" for two reasons: 1) I object to being charged to give someone money. If you tell me I owe you $90 and that you accept this list of methods to pay and I go to use one of those methods and you reply "oh to use that method I will charge you an extra $3.95," I am going to use the method that costs me an extra $0 because I already agreed to give you $90; you can work out how to collect t…

I think you're missing the point of the fee. The company (Visa, Discover, Apple) that processes the transaction charges a fee (flat or percentage) for each purchase. This is why they add the fee.

Of course apartments charge high fees for rent - they want to ensure they collect the full amount of their monthly rent according to the contract. A $50 fee on say 1000 dollar rent is 5%, ensuring they cover whatever Visa is going to charge them on the transaction. And if they get a little extra income for themselves - then all the better for then as you got some convenience out of it by not having to write a check!

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by joshvm »

techsupporter wrote: post #125
fireattack wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't seem to like the additional "convenience fee" when they're paying their bill online, though :P (which to be fair, is indeed more convenient than paying it in-person.)

I don't like the "convenience fee" for two reasons: 1) I object to being charged to give someone money. If you tell me I owe you $90 and that you accept this list of methods to pay and I go to use one of those methods and you reply "oh to use that method I will charge you an extra $3.95," I am going to use the method that costs me an extra $0 because I already agreed to give you $90; you can work out how to collect t…

Surprising that you can pay with a credit card to begin with. You could probably turn a profit by using a reward/cashback card (in a lot of cities that's easily $10k+ a year in spend).

Though presumably that's $50 a month.. So perhaps not.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by ikeboy »

wmf wrote: post #129
ikeboy wrote: post #90

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You can still buy Nike from Amazon just like you could have done before Nike started selling to Amazon. There's lots of sellers who buy from Nike outlet stores and resell it on Amazon.

It's impossible to know whether you're getting counterfeit stuff from a reseller.

If you strongly need 100% guarantee of authenticity instead of 99.9%, then yes, go ahead and pay more to buy directly from the company.

Of course, many companies add returns back to inventory, and some customers commit return fraud.

I assume you don't buy from Walmart, in case someone resold them counterfeit products?

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by romwell »

brnt wrote: post #104
jeltz wrote: post #38

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Even in Europe we suffer from this. I never buy from Amazon anymore due to their website being as bad as the average small webbshop if you are not in one of the countries Amazon is in (e.g. US, UK or Germany).

Small shops had superior experiences to Amazon even back in the 90ies. Never understood the appeal of Amazon. There's so much better options locally (NL), in matters of search, payment, website ease of use, shipping, etc. I hope for the rest of Europe and perhaps America bol.com expands ;)

In the US, Amazon trumps pretty much everything else with free 2-day delivery (and often, 1-day and even same-day) with Amazon Prime, and a relatively painless and easy return process and handling cases of mis-shipment.

Also, as one of the most popular stores, it has the most reviews on items like electronics. These reviews provide a lot of value (not the star-ratings, but actual reviews, where you can see what people complain about).

For things like photography equipment and musical instruments, I'd go to other stores (BHphoto/Adorama/GuitarCenter/Sweetwater/Reverb/Ebay).

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by zwaps »

brnt wrote: post #104
jeltz wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even in Europe we suffer from this. I never buy from Amazon anymore due to their website being as bad as the average small webbshop if you are not in one of the countries Amazon is in (e.g. US, UK or Germany).

Small shops had superior experiences to Amazon even back in the 90ies. Never understood the appeal of Amazon. There's so much better options locally (NL), in matters of search, payment, website ease of use, shipping, etc. I hope for the rest of Europe and perhaps America bol.com expands ;)

Amazon here literally delivers the same day, or the next.

On the downside, many items are now Chinese fakes. So for brand products, I tend to not use amazon anymore, as it is basically a fake marketplace. If available, I always use the webshop of the company directly. Much less headache.

But in my experience it is usually cheapest, and no one can even touch the shipping time.

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