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Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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John Carmack seems like a guy that would've made fundamental contributions to science, had he been born a century before. Computer science now occupies the place physics once did, in its impact on moving the world forward. Best of luck to him, I look forward to seeing what he produces!

You guys really get high on your own supply don't you? It's a toss-up these days whether something from computer science or a programmer will either enhance or erode the human experience and quality of life.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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I don't understand how he could contribute to the field of AGI research from home, by himself, and maybe with his son. It's the kind of problem that requires incredible amounts of data, hardware, and theory to make any progress. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to join a cutting-edge team, like DeepMind or OpenAI?

> It's the kind of problem that requires incredible amounts of data, hardware, and theory to make any progress.

I wouldn't be surprised if the opposite was true, at least with the theory part. AI didn't really go anywhere for decades, because people focused too much on theory.

Otherwise, there's a lot of data and hardware at your disposal, even from the comfort of your home.

> Wouldn't it make more sense for him to join a cutting-edge team, like DeepMind or OpenAI?

You mean they guys that are training with videogames that people like John developed?

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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I hope he'll go the hybrid symbolic and neural network way (causal and statistical), instead of just statistical. AGI needs a type system... I hope I'll achieve AGI before him but it's nice to know there's some real competition! (because, reader, there are almost 0 researchers seriously trying to achieve AGI in a not totally bullshit way. Only opencog and Cyc comes to mind).

Do you have a goto resource to watch/read for someone new and kinda interested in the field?

reddit.com/r/agi sometimes has interesting stuff. Although its often pie-in-the-sky articles that have no actual implementation.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #28

John Carmack seems like a guy that would've made fundamental contributions to science, had he been born a century before. Computer science now occupies the place physics once did, in its impact on moving the world forward. Best of luck to him, I look forward to seeing what he produces!

You guys really get high on your own supply don't you? It's a toss-up these days whether something from computer science or a programmer will either enhance or erode the human experience and quality of life.

I think you're on the wrong site if you're wanting to criticize software development as a career and suggest it does more harm than good

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #28

John Carmack seems like a guy that would've made fundamental contributions to science, had he been born a century before. Computer science now occupies the place physics once did, in its impact on moving the world forward. Best of luck to him, I look forward to seeing what he produces!

why would being born in the current century preclude one from making fundamental contributions?

You are making a common mistake of assuming that just because someone is good at something like programing computers the same skill would translate identically to a completely different domain.

If anything he is lucky to have been born in an era where his skill of programming computers could be put to use - otherwise his talents may have gone to waste, he may have ended up toiling fields his talent untapped and undiscovered, like that of millions before him.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #21

I don't understand how he could contribute to the field of AGI research from home, by himself, and maybe with his son. It's the kind of problem that requires incredible amounts of data, hardware, and theory to make any progress. Wouldn't it make more sense for him to join a cutting-edge team, like DeepMind or OpenAI?

Everything I've ever read about Carmack suggests he'll do his best on his own at home. Much of this work can be done on reasonable hardware, and he's always been really good at getting a lot out of reasonable hardware. Further, if he needs enormous compute resources, he can get it at any of several cloud providers.

Even at Oculus, he worked "from Dallas", but spent a huge amount of time working at home.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #28

John Carmack seems like a guy that would've made fundamental contributions to science, had he been born a century before. Computer science now occupies the place physics once did, in its impact on moving the world forward. Best of luck to him, I look forward to seeing what he produces!

You guys really get high on your own supply don't you? It's a toss-up these days whether something from computer science or a programmer will either enhance or erode the human experience and quality of life.

I'm generally inclined to agree with your first statement, but not very sure what's the point of your second statement.

There was a 50/50 chance 100 years ago that discoveries in chemistry or physics were immediately weaponized. I'd say GP's analogy still holds, yeah?

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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I was wondering why his tweeting about graphics and VR went to 0. We've gone back into the part of the cycle where VR is an odd curiousity again, haven't we?

Unfortunately VR has turned out to be an intensely nauseating puke fest for many of us.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #34

>Runner up for next project was cost effective nuclear fission reactors, which wouldn’t have been as suitable for that style of work. I can't tell if he was serious about that comment or not... Considering he builds rockets with free time, it could go either way.

I took it as "not even I would experiment with nuclear fission reactors from my house".
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