AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018) • Hacker News Board

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by sangnoir » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:44 PM UTC

Lordarminius wrote: post #12

AI can make decisions, create deep fakes, and now, clone voices. It may be that the next big business opportunity lies in creating 'anti-AI' technology just as it did with antiviruses in the 90's and 2000's

Is it that difficult to create/retrofit an AV container format for cryptographically signed audio and video streams? Key management & revocation could be a pain, but it's something that consumer electronics companies like Apple could do: think of it as the MPEG LA, but with signature checking & non-repudiation.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by blacksmith_tb » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:44 PM UTC

hurrdurr2 wrote: post #14

Autocratic regimes can rejoice...they can extract public confessions so much easier now...

Only ones that care about the appearance of propriety though, presumably most never had to try to produce convincing fakes when their word was already law?

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by redsymbol » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:48 PM UTC

Not looking forward to the phishing that will exploit this.

Going to call my parents today and warn them. If they ever hear something from me that's not adding up, be skeptical, and verify it some other way before taking any action.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by Retric » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:49 PM UTC

kevinwang wrote: post #23

Lordarminius wrote: post #12

AI can make decisions, create deep fakes, and now, clone voices. It may be that the next big business opportunity lies in creating 'anti-AI' technology just as it did with antiviruses in the 90's and 2000's

Like the booming anti Photoshop industry of the early 2000s?

10 years ago this stuff was often easy to notice. https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/in-an-iranian-i...

Being good at Photoshop is really difficult and producing good fakes is extremely time consuming. Today, even with a Hollywood budget, most such effects still look off. However, the industry has gotten much with actor enhancement for example generally going unnoticed.

Which I think is real issue, this stuff is becoming easier over time. AI could be the tipping point where eventually people just stop trusting images and video. But, that transition is gonna be difficult.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by visarga » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

teraflop wrote: post #6

nsxwolf wrote: post #5

A staple of science fiction comes to life.

And conversely, Star Trek's frequent use of voiceprint authentication looks sillier by the day.

It's even sillier when robots in almost all sci-fi movies have 'robotic voice' and human level intelligence. It's actually much easier to have human voice and 'robot intelligence'. They got it backwards. At least the computer voice in Star-trek and Data's voice were human.

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by jmann99999 » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:54 PM UTC

ihm wrote: post #4

Reading this headline I begin to understand certain people’s worry about having their soul stolen upon being photographed.

You mean the abo-diginals? :-)

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by rojobuffalo » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:55 PM UTC

Lordarminius wrote: post #12

AI can make decisions, create deep fakes, and now, clone voices. It may be that the next big business opportunity lies in creating 'anti-AI' technology just as it did with antiviruses in the 90's and 2000's

Wouldn't an AI-detector just end up being used like a benchmark for fine-tuning AIs though?

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by mistermann » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:56 PM UTC

goodmachine wrote: post #7

The malign applications of this technology greatly outweigh the benign. Discuss.

Here's an outlandishly optimistic take on the possibilities.....as the internet and media is flooded with increasingly convincing but false representations of reality, a widespread habit of greater skepticism of "the facts" starts to spread throughout society, leading people to alter the speed at which they form new opinions on various issues (possibly degrading confidence in preexisting opinions), and the manner in which they construct their personal mental model of reality. As the frequency with which an individual's brain is fed data inconsistent with directly observable reality increases, might a tipping point be eventually released where it refuses to continue making snap decisions, and instead delays judgement until a later point in time when more information is available?

Perhaps loosely similar to being forced into a stature of "noting" in meditation: https://www.insightmeditationcenter.org/books-articles/menta...

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by obaid » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:56 PM UTC

This is awesome (in a crazy way). I was playing with Resemble.ai [1] yesterday and was surprised by how good it was in replicating my voice with just a few minutes of dataset. This technology is going to keep on getting better by the minute.

As with any piece of technology, there are always good and bad actors.

1- [Resemble.ai](http://resemble.ai)

Re: AI Clones Your Voice After Listening for 5 Seconds (2018)

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Post by Hoasi » Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

kingkawn wrote: post #80

This is part of the process of truth being removed from all recording. Soon we will be back to a state where the only certainty is the person we speak to in person

> Soon we will be back to a state where the only certainty is the person we speak to in person

That is until we are able to tell whether that "reality" is synthesized or not.