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Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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So we, filthy plebs, have low value and because of that we have to share our data for free Nice

Nothing is preventing you from putting a sticker over your webcam, just like Zuck does.

Or I can close my eyes and imagine that nothing happened

Result will be the same

Stickers do not work - because people around you do not put it too magically

And what even sillier - that someone have phone with installed fb app in 2k19

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Such bullshit. They definitely initialize the camera in the background. That is how you are able to simply swipe to your camera view and it is immediately active. Otherwise you would get a slight delay while the camera is initialised. What they are calling a bug is that the user actually saw it it rendered to a view... Have no doubt - this happens on ALL apps that dont have an apparent delay on switching to a camera…

Looking at the videos, it looks like the camera opens when the main view is swiped to the right. And you can see a ~300ms delay between when he swipes down and when the camera starts. This makes sense, because the way you open the story feature on FB is to swipe right. It's a good UX feature to start booting the camera as soon as you initiate the gesture, rather than when you've fully navigated so the camera is ready…

I have heard that facebook's app delivery pipeline is automated (so that they could release in a day if they wish) but also that they dogfood their apps with employees. So not sure how such an obvious bug us released. Either their employees don't use the app or their 100% automation is pathetically bad.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Booting the camera so it is quickly available? Sure, that is a user-facing benefit.

My immediate hunch is rather that they love tracking emotional responses such as widening eyes as people interact with content. Because knowing the true emotional responses instead of just hitting "like" on a post would be extremely valuable data.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Looking at the videos, it looks like the camera opens when the main view is swiped to the right. And you can see a ~300ms delay between when he swipes down and when the camera starts. This makes sense, because the way you open the story feature on FB is to swipe right. It's a good UX feature to start booting the camera as soon as you initiate the gesture, rather than when you've fully navigated so the camera is ready…

I have heard that facebook's app delivery pipeline is automated (so that they could release in a day if they wish) but also that they dogfood their apps with employees. So not sure how such an obvious bug us released. Either their employees don't use the app or their 100% automation is pathetically bad.

Or they knew about the bug, but considered it just a visual glitch (not considering people might get upset about privacy implications), and didn't prioritize fixing it.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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WTF does a VP of integrity do? Have lunches with the VP of honesty?

They mostly just avoid talking to the VP of Truth.

Nah, I would think he's their friend as his role is likely to mostly involve promoting "company culture" in all-hands meetings and via the corporate blog.

It's facts that they all avoid or diligently rework to fit their version of the truth.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Nothing is preventing you from putting a sticker over your webcam, just like Zuck does.

Or I can close my eyes and imagine that nothing happened Result will be the same Stickers do not work - because people around you do not put it too magically And what even sillier - that someone have phone with installed fb app in 2k19

>Stickers do not work

They do though.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Also nice reminder about that lovely photo of Zuck with a sticker covering up his webcam. Now why would he do something like that ... ?

I do it. My wife does it. My sister does it. The cameras at Bloomberg all had shutters, and I used it there as well. It's just good (paranoid?) OPSEC to defend against remote takeover exploits.

How does tape over a camera prevent remote takeover specifically?

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Not sure who downvoted you. But I agree 100% with this, he is a high value target.

So we, filthy plebs, have low value and because of that we have to share our data for free Nice

This is an intentional misreading of the parent comment and does not belong on this forum. Zuck being a high value target for extortion/exploitation/attack is an objective fact. Saying so doesn't imply that anyone else is "low value" - attackers will attack whoever and whatever they can to achieve their goal, which is almost always money.
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