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Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #16

Such bullshit. They definitely initialize the camera in the background. That is how you are able to simply swipe to your camera view and it is immediately active. Otherwise you would get a slight delay while the camera is initialised. What they are calling a bug is that the user actually saw it it rendered to a view... Have no doubt - this happens on ALL apps that dont have an apparent delay on switching to a camera…

This may be true... Previous versions used to take an age to load up the camera screen/swipe action was blocked (assuming the initialising process). So looks like this may of been their attempt of fixing the UX

They have been doing it for as long as I can recall. Its common practice. From my perspective, the problem is that they arent acknowedging they do that - they are instead saying its a bug that they have fixed - but you can be sure they are still preinitializing the camera...

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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Such bullshit. They definitely initialize the camera in the background. That is how you are able to simply swipe to your camera view and it is immediately active. Otherwise you would get a slight delay while the camera is initialised. What they are calling a bug is that the user actually saw it it rendered to a view... Have no doubt - this happens on ALL apps that dont have an apparent delay on switching to a camera…

But they never said that they do not init camera in the background?

Or did I miss some part.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #11

> Facebook vice president of integrity Guy Rosen The same Guy Rosen who was the CEO of Onvao - the infamous data grab app that Facebook purchased.... yeah, that integrity guy...

WTF does a VP of integrity do? Have lunches with the VP of honesty?

You know how banks have someone who's job title is something like "Head Of Fraud"? Who's role is to work out what a "reasonable" allowable amount of fraud is, small enough that it can be de-risked and budgeted for, but not so small it becomes "more expensive that it's worth" to fight it? An then to put processes in place to monitor fraud and ensure no more fraud occurs that planned for?

That's what _I'm_ imagining a "VP of Integrity" at Facebook does.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also noticed they've started resetting the notification settings I set through the Android settings menu for Messenger. I didn't know this was supposed to be possible.

I think the developer can change the notification channel ID (which they use to group similar notifications and the user can disable a specific channel) and then you basically start with a channel without previous settings. You would have to disable all notifications for an app completely (not just a specific type) to prevent this for the future.

Or, you know, delete the demonstrated-untrustworthy app from your device...

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #11

> Facebook vice president of integrity Guy Rosen The same Guy Rosen who was the CEO of Onvao - the infamous data grab app that Facebook purchased.... yeah, that integrity guy...

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_of_Nineteen_Eighty-...

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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What's concerning is if FB could potentially target users based upon interests/variety of other user data to "introduce" these types of "bugs".

Not trying to start a conspiracy, but given the data and reach FB has, they could potentially target unknowing/non-techy people somewhere in the world and do it without their knowledge/care.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #19

I think it’s just bug.

You'll have to excuse me for being at least a little suspicious when one of the biggest surveillance capitalism companies on the planet ships an app version with a "feature" that looks a lot like surreptitious surveillance.

Facebook have demonstrated capability to do accurate face recognition, and it's hardly a stretch to assume they couldn't do enough object and possibly brand recognition from a live video feed from you phones camera as you're using the app.

Perhaps people might not make assumptions or jump to conclusions like those, if the company was one that had a solid track record of respecting user privacy and getting the protection of privacy right. That company is not Facebook...

But what would I know, I'm just "a dumb fuck"...

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #11

> Facebook vice president of integrity Guy Rosen The same Guy Rosen who was the CEO of Onvao - the infamous data grab app that Facebook purchased.... yeah, that integrity guy...

WTF does a VP of integrity do? Have lunches with the VP of honesty?

I asked the VP of absurdity, and he told me to go ask the VP of Kafkaesque nightmares.

Re: Facebook says a bug caused its iPhone app’s inadvertent camera access

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post #11

> Facebook vice president of integrity Guy Rosen The same Guy Rosen who was the CEO of Onvao - the infamous data grab app that Facebook purchased.... yeah, that integrity guy...

Israeli Companies in particular are hell bent on acquiring ‘big data’ on the populations of western nations.
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