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Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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Weirdly enough this isn’t much of an issue in most other parts of the world.

Really? Because Canadian customs officers are known to be a bunch of tough guys too.

I travel across the US Canada land border from time to time (in the mountain west). My experience has been that Canadian officials are universally civil and respectful while US officials are universally not.

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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There are cases of doing this to U.S. Citizens, in some cases, quite disturbingly, to journalists .

It's no more or less disturbing for journalists to be subjected to this. They're not some special class of protected people.

The freedom of the press is specifically called out for a reason.

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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More specifically, "regulated" means something like "trained."

Q: How were colonial era soldiers trained? A: Soldiers were trained to follow rules (aka regulations) and obey. Line up shoulder to shoulder and fire 3-5 volleys a minute in a prescribed manner. A rabble would get 1-2 off and die.

Yes, that's organizational discipline, not legislative decree.

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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If you're on US soil you're subject to US law, including all provisions of the Constitution. And the Constitution makes a distinction between 'citizens' and 'people' (i.e., everybody, including noncitizens)

Aside from all the arguments brought up so far, there's that word "unreasonable" which the courts have historically interpreted with an "expectation of privacy" standard. You have a high expectation of privacy when you're in your house, somewhat less when you're in a car, and much less when you're entering an airport or crossing a border. In the old days, it was routine for customs officers to search ships coming in…

You rightfully argue that lowering protection boundaries was necessary to uphold the law. The same logic can be applied in reverse though - there is no practical need to smuggle data into the country on a physical device nowadays, so why search devices?

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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Really? Because Canadian customs officers are known to be a bunch of tough guys too.

I travel across the US Canada land border from time to time (in the mountain west). My experience has been that Canadian officials are universally civil and respectful while US officials are universally not.

In my experience on both sides, pleasantness is directly correlated to the number of cars in line.

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Because Canadian customs officers are known to be a bunch of tough guys too.

I travel across the US Canada land border from time to time (in the mountain west). My experience has been that Canadian officials are universally civil and respectful while US officials are universally not.

As a frequent traveler between the US and Canada, I’ve only ever got grief (including accusations of smuggling) from Canadian officials. Going to the Us side it’s usually a simple “have a nice day”.

And I have Canadian citizenship.

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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But for the purpose of militia in this context and therefore that of the 2nd amendment, the power of Congress over the militia is deemed "unlimited" [0]. As such, regulating it's use of arms would be well within it's remit. [0] https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-1/58-the-mili...

... as long as such regulation does not infringe the right of the people to keep or bear arms for all the purposes envisioned by the constitutional framers. Wikipedia has an excellent reference on this. See the "Experience in America prior to the U.S. Constitution" section: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_Unit...

Good luck fighting carriers and strategic bombers with your militia.

Also, what's the use of a militia being recognized and, wow, regulated by the very government they are designed to oppose if push comes to shove.

Re: Court: Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

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post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weirdly enough this isn’t much of an issue in most other parts of the world.

Really? Because Canadian customs officers are known to be a bunch of tough guys too.

Can confirm. Have crossed between New York/Ontario many times over the years.
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