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Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by criley2 » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:31 PM UTC

newprint wrote: post #27

Ok, just a note to everyone ! It is online service and your diagrams are stored in the "cloud" and you have zero control over it. Please, do not post your company's secret in form of diagrams. Recently, we caught one of the contractors using Draw.io to make diagrams of brand new systems that we are designing(we are fortune 40 company). System is expensive, very sensitive.

On the flip side, we use Google G Suite so the majority of our documents are stored with Google, and draw.io's cloud support seamlessly works with our G Suite drives.

Our G Suite administrators have plenty of control over the G Suite Google Drives that would be used with draw.io and our Google accounts.

The only bits of our data we don't trust with Google are PHI

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by packetlost » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:31 PM UTC

draw.io got me through all of college. Easily one of my favorite applications ever. Suck it visio!

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:32 PM UTC

LeonM wrote: post #17

Creating a tool like this requires significant resources, is there a business model behind it?

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Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by grepfru_it » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:32 PM UTC

newprint wrote: post #27

Ok, just a note to everyone ! It is online service and your diagrams are stored in the "cloud" and you have zero control over it. Please, do not post your company's secret in form of diagrams. Recently, we caught one of the contractors using Draw.io to make diagrams of brand new systems that we are designing(we are fortune 40 company). System is expensive, very sensitive.

that is if you save it, it is my understanding the actual objects drawn and linked on screen are entirely stored in the DOM of your browser until you click "save" and send it to a cloud location. "saving" to your browser or device just creates a "download" of static blob data in a variable

i have confirmed this with a local instance of draw.io

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by voiper1 » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:32 PM UTC

For web-design things, you can turn on Bootstrap in the "More shapes" on bottom left.

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by bearcherian » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:34 PM UTC

newprint wrote: post #27

Ok, just a note to everyone ! It is online service and your diagrams are stored in the "cloud" and you have zero control over it. Please, do not post your company's secret in form of diagrams. Recently, we caught one of the contractors using Draw.io to make diagrams of brand new systems that we are designing(we are fortune 40 company). System is expensive, very sensitive.

"cloud" != "public"

If you save it in your Google Drive, you can control who has access. Even better if it's your organization's GSuite

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by MattConfluence » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:37 PM UTC

An incredibly useful tool. I started using it in university for coursework, I used it to create figures for my master's thesis, and now I use it in my industry job. I would give it the highest statement of praise you can give any software: it just works.

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by davidjgraph » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:39 PM UTC

criley2 wrote: post #31

newprint wrote: post #27

Ok, just a note to everyone ! It is online service and your diagrams are stored in the "cloud" and you have zero control over it. Please, do not post your company's secret in form of diagrams. Recently, we caught one of the contractors using Draw.io to make diagrams of brand new systems that we are designing(we are fortune 40 company). System is expensive, very sensitive.

On the flip side, we use Google G Suite so the majority of our documents are stored with Google, and draw.io's cloud support seamlessly works with our G Suite drives. Our G Suite administrators have plenty of control over the G Suite Google Drives that would be used with draw.io and our Google accounts. The only bits of our data we don't trust with Google are PHI

This is where my reply was going. Authenication to Google Drive is client-side and direct to google.com. There is no draw.io server anywhere that can access your Google Drive.

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by MayeulC » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:40 PM UTC

davidjgraph wrote: post #19

LeonM wrote: post #17

Creating a tool like this requires significant resources, is there a business model behind it?

The core team has a 15 year contract with an Atlassian consulting firm to produce and support the Confluence and Jira integrations with a revenue share model. Last financial year that earned us $3.1M, up from $1.8M the year before.

Thank you for keeping this open! It really is a gift to anyone who wants full control of their tools. I sometimes use it together with inkscape, tikz and graphviz.

I quite like the draw.io nextcloud app as well, though I guess it could also be a storage provider on the website for better integration :)

Re: Draw.io: Online Diagramming Website

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Post by fsloth » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 2:43 PM UTC

davidjgraph wrote: post #19

LeonM wrote: post #17

Creating a tool like this requires significant resources, is there a business model behind it?

The core team has a 15 year contract with an Atlassian consulting firm to produce and support the Confluence and Jira integrations with a revenue share model. Last financial year that earned us $3.1M, up from $1.8M the year before.

That's really great! It's really hard to find examples of business models built around free software that brings in straighforward revenue. Good luck!