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Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by jacquesm »

whalebird wrote: post #77
jacquesm wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but we're told by the Crown Prince that it was a rogue operation, and we trust that's the case We also believe in: - the tooth fairy - SantaClaus And many other such examples besides. All that wriggling in order not to find a reason to resign and show some conscience. Either that or be blunt about it, what he really should have said was: "Yes, Khashoggi was murdered. My investors unfortunately are lying murderous s…

Do you really think that's what he should have said? Because that sounds like a vastly dumber thing to say, even if it's "honest". The "rogue operation" story is "good enough". It's plausible. That doesn't mean it's true of course. It doesn't have to be. Nobody has to actually believe it. It's just good enough so that everyone involved can save the minimum amount of face required to move on. The reason that the murde…

> It's plausible.

You've got to be kidding.

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by kbos87 »

HeXetic wrote: post #4

A prototype self-driving car runs over a person due to negligence on the part of the test operator who was supposed to prevent it and failures on the part of the team who created the vehicle. It was not negligence or failures that sent killers to an embassy before Mr. Kashoggi was scheduled to arrive, strangled him, cut him up into pieces, sent out a body double as a distraction, disposed of the evidence, and lied ab…

Wow, that lets everyone at Uber off the hook for the self driving car incident. The safety operator certainly isn’t blameless, but I’d argue that her eventual complacency should have been predicted and mitigated against by Uber.

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by mtnGoat »

saluki wrote: post #45

I feel like I should stop working in tech and pursue a more profitable career as a common sense advisor to CEOs and Professional Athletes.

you might be surprised to find out their advisors are telling them to do this wacky stuff, to get press. (source: old friend works in Hollywood PR, its insane!)

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by plorkyeran »

HeXetic wrote: post #4

A prototype self-driving car runs over a person due to negligence on the part of the test operator who was supposed to prevent it and failures on the part of the team who created the vehicle. It was not negligence or failures that sent killers to an embassy before Mr. Kashoggi was scheduled to arrive, strangled him, cut him up into pieces, sent out a body double as a distraction, disposed of the evidence, and lied ab…

If they're both "mistakes" then I guess what he's trying to say is that they deliberately programmed the car to run people over and it wasn't mere negligence?

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by dang »

joshstrange wrote: post #20

Oh yeah, Saudi's brutally tortured and murdered Khashoggi, Uber's self-driving car ran over a woman, and I forgot to take out the trash this week on trash day. All mistakes, all equal. Are we going to hold this over their heads forever, it was /just a mistake/.... /s "I didn't read the CIA report" well neither did I but from the coverage alone I would never call this a "mistake". Also they own 1/5th of your company,…

Would you please not rant like this in HN comments? Venting indignation doesn't make this place better, and whatever substantive comment you have to make can be made in a way that adds information, not noise. When the froth rises all the way to allcaps, that's particularly a sign of the wrong thresholds being passed.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Also, please don't post the same comment twice: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21505062. Duplication is a sure way to add noise not signal. (Also, when there are duplicate submissions, we'll probably merge them, in which case your comment will appear twice in the same thread or we have to make special effort to exempt it from merging, and also move any replies that it got so that the replying users aren't punished for your duplication.)

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by dang »

CalChris wrote: post #69
notimetorelax wrote: post #28

I think this statement is reprehensible, still is this post an HN material?

If HN is going to cover business articles then yes.

HN covers intellectually interesting articles: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Rage posts lead to rage threads. Those get many reflexive upvotes but tend not to be intellectually interesting. This thread is a case in point.

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by joshstrange »

dang wrote: post #106
joshstrange wrote: post #20

Oh yeah, Saudi's brutally tortured and murdered Khashoggi, Uber's self-driving car ran over a woman, and I forgot to take out the trash this week on trash day. All mistakes, all equal. Are we going to hold this over their heads forever, it was /just a mistake/.... /s "I didn't read the CIA report" well neither did I but from the coverage alone I would never call this a "mistake". Also they own 1/5th of your company,…

Would you please not rant like this in HN comments? Venting indignation doesn't make this place better, and whatever substantive comment you have to make can be made in a way that adds information, not noise. When the froth rises all the way to allcaps, that's particularly a sign of the wrong thresholds being passed. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Also, please don't post the same comment twice: http…

Feedback taken, I apologize and will refrain from ranting in the future. I was unaware of the merging of stories being a normal thing on HN as I regularly see multiple stories posted about the same topic (not same link). I posted on one story then went the the home page, saw it posted under a different link and copied my comment over as it appeared to be where more discussion was happening.

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by cannabis_sam »

There’s something hilarious about every saudi/us story.

A son of a wealthy saudi family recruited a bunch of saudis to attack the the US, and suceeded(!) yet there’s been no backlash on saudi arabia..

But hold on, Iran is financing Hezbollah in Lebanon, obviously US resources should focus on this!

Re: Uber CEO calls Saudi murder of Khashoggi “a mistake,” scrambles to backtrack

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Post by spumoni »

cannabis_sam wrote: post #109

There’s something hilarious about every saudi/us story. A son of a wealthy saudi family recruited a bunch of saudis to attack the the US, and suceeded(!) yet there’s been no backlash on saudi arabia.. But hold on, Iran is financing Hezbollah in Lebanon, obviously US resources should focus on this!

It makes perfect sense when you realize that Lebanon borders our (((allies)))
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