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Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Reliability Rankings

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Re: Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Reliability Rankings

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Post by mariorossi666 »

burntoutfire wrote: post #185
mariorossi666 wrote: post #102

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> is so obsessed with the discount model, It is really not. Nobody goes to LIDL to buy food, unless has some real money problem. You have to make a different comparison: buy quality food from a local farmer and the same food from a local European farmer. You will notice that in Europe is much more common than you think, it can usually be found in the local market in your neighborhood and it's much cheaper than in the…

> Nobody goes to LIDL to buy food, unless has some real money problem. Then I guess most of Poland has "real money problems", as LIDL and equivalents is where we shop. However, I think it's just that we don't like to overpay for stuff.

LIDL is a discount from Germany, it is spread over northern continental Europe and especially the eastern block.

If you compare it to other western supermarket chains like Carrefour, or Auchan, their food is of a lower quality, despite being not much cheaper.

LIDL is convenient for packaged or canned food or "everything not related to food", but it's a discount, not exactly popular for quality.

Even Simply, the discount branch of Auchan, sells better food than LIDL. At least in this part of Europe.

And they are all of lower quality than Esselunga or Coop or Conad (but that could just be the Italian in me talking).

But honestly I've never been at LIDL in Poland, maybe it's better over there.

On a side note: many Polish people have a real money problem.

The average Polish salary is below 1k euros, while in Germany is over 2.5k euros.

Re: Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Reliability Rankings

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Post by thedaemon »

navigatesol wrote: post #164
oblio wrote: post #128

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Could be. I find it amusing that from a climate change point of view, both their comments are basically negative: * good windows provide better insulation and reduce the need to heat/cool down a building, plus their reduce dampness since they keep moisture out * while a tumble dryer uses electricity for something which is not much of a chore (it takes like, 5 minutes, to hang the laundry and 5 more minutes to pick it…

> I find it amusing that from a climate change point of view, both their comments are basically negative: It's almost like countries like Germany (350k sq km area) and the US (10 million sq km) have different climates and needs. This thread is filled with Europeans saying, "I went to the US once, and their grocery store didn't have produce like my French neighborhood market!"

You have offended Europeans, therefore you get tons of downvotes, even though it's against the rules to downvote someone because you disagree.

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Post by thedaemon »

freeflight wrote: post #168
jiggawatts wrote: post #109

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The United States is the World's richest third-world country. You have crazy levels of gun violence, high inequality, tribal politics, high levels of corruption that have been legalized via Super-PACs, effectively state-run media (Fox News), highest per-capita incarceration, a failing medical system, failing infrastructure, etc, etc... The best example I can think of to show how far the US has fallen behind the rest…

Funny story about that, the US is actually metric [0] Still doesn't stop the nutters from opposing it because it's supposedly a tool by the NWO to take over the world, with the US remaining as sole resistance [1] [0] https://youtu.be/SmSJXC6_qQ8 [1] https://youtu.be/8jl5epgqHac

Funny story? Not a funny story. We are not metric. We would be metric if you bought items in metric. We do not. Doesn't matter what the scientist use. It matters what milk and bread is sold in. We buy drinks in liters and gallons. Those are not metric.

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Post by taurath »

ckastner wrote: post #155
taurath wrote: post #57

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It can’t be better - the US basically HAS no street food outside of New York.

I visited Portland a few years ago and the quantity and quality of street food being offered was amazing. There were entire squares packed with vendors. I enjoy the street food scene in London, but I'd choose Portland over it any day.

Over downtown near the waterfront during a farmers market, or food trucks?

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Post by taurath »

azernik wrote: post #105
taurath wrote: post #56

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It’s so hard to get a proper vegetable conveniently in the US, while in Japan you can get it at a 7-11.

In California, proper vegetables are very attainable.

What I meant to say was “as convenience food” as in already cooked and not a salad. Plenty of good stuff in stores, but not a lot from the available quick food places

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Post by linksnapzz »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #127
justapassenger wrote: post #36

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Words are cheap. They’re under investigation for possibly hiding recall and issuing OTA instead that surprised people with sudden range loss ( https://www.businessinsider.com/nhtsa-investigating-tesla-up... ) They force customers to go over arbitration to fix yellowing entertainment screen on cars as young as few months. They tell people it’s normal wear and tear due to using cat in the sun ( https://teslamotorsclub.…

Perhaps the grandparent comment was actually talking about the quality of Tesla’s Public Relations department. Otherwise it would strike me as odd that someone would boost a vehicle manufacturer that doesn’t sell spare parts, in a thread on vehicle reliability. Edited a few words to better express my point.

The difference is, the other automakers have decades of experience tailoring public pronouncements so as not to provide fodder for trial lawyers. Hence the vaporous noncommunication. Tesla hasn't been sued as much yet, but they'll get there eventually.

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Post by wglb »

thedaemon wrote: post #232
navigatesol wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I find it amusing that from a climate change point of view, both their comments are basically negative: It's almost like countries like Germany (350k sq km area) and the US (10 million sq km) have different climates and needs. This thread is filled with Europeans saying, "I went to the US once, and their grocery store didn't have produce like my French neighborhood market!"

You have offended Europeans, therefore you get tons of downvotes, even though it's against the rules to downvote someone because you disagree.

> even though it's against the rules to downvote someone because you disagree.

No, this is not true: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16131314

Re: Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Reliability Rankings

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Post by linksnapzz »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #18

Yeah, as a Kiwi, I'm entirely unsurprised. I've owned Japanese cars from various manufacturers, but the absolute worst I owned was a Toyota Cavalier - a rebadged Chevrolet as part of some trade deal between the US and Japan - that the Japanese steered well clear of and immediately exported to NZ and Aus. It had a great wee 4 cylinder 2.4L engine, a hell of a lot of fun to drive, but it was of notorious build quality…

Why not both?

The J-cars (cavalier/sunfire/sunbird) existed b/c of the second oil crisis in '78. GM needed something FWD, smaller than the X-cars, that could get better fuel economy than the RWD V-6 and V-8 cars it had been selling in the '70s. The thought was that people in the US would buy these because they had to, not because small cars would suddenly become appealing to Americans in their own right.

The Js were never terribly profitable, the lower-end ones were almost certainly sold at cost to boost the company's mileage compliance numbers. The traditional easy way of squeezing costs out of a car is to pull them out of the interior & trim, which would explain the sunroof, the dash electronics, the trunk closures and taillights.

The engine you got in yours is almost certainly the Quad OHC, one of the last Oldsmobile powertrain designs...in its original 2.3L config, Olds had it making 185hp (in 1989, with no turbo!). Powerful but with no balance shafts, it pulled well but sounded & shook like a pair of wolverines trapped in a dryer, which is why the 2.4L version got balance shafts and was detuned to 150hp.

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Post by bradstewart »

ptaipale wrote: post #173
SiempreViernes wrote: post #130

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So Musk is saying their finished cars have problems because they get bad parts and they have to put those bad parts on their cars? I would have tough you did some quality assurance on all parts you put in the car, and not use the bad ones.

I really don't believe Tesla gets any worse parts than other manufacturers. Those parts come from the same production line. They are the same parts. Almost all of the automotive industry uses the same parts, chosen from a fairly limited variety of models, produced in great numbers. The design of a car has a great impact on how long those parts last. It's easy to blame a parts supplier for faults that are because of y…

Do auto parts manufacturers bin their products in a way similar to what Intel and AMD do with CPUs? Where the "less perfect" die become lower-end SKUs, or certain batch numbers are known for being better overclockers, etc.

If certain units are manufactured "perfectly" while others come off the line in spec but close to their limits, I could see the suppliers prioritizing their bigger customers.

I have absolutely no idea if this the case, I think your point about the system design is most likely the bigger factor here, but I'm curious nonetheless.

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Post by robin_reala »

thedaemon wrote: post #233
freeflight wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny story about that, the US is actually metric [0] Still doesn't stop the nutters from opposing it because it's supposedly a tool by the NWO to take over the world, with the US remaining as sole resistance [1] [0] https://youtu.be/SmSJXC6_qQ8 [1] https://youtu.be/8jl5epgqHac

Funny story? Not a funny story. We are not metric. We would be metric if you bought items in metric. We do not. Doesn't matter what the scientist use. It matters what milk and bread is sold in. We buy drinks in liters and gallons. Those are not metric.

Litres are metric?
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