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Every American Car Brand Is on the Bottom Half of CR's Reliability Rankings

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Have you ever rented a Lamborghini?

Ok ok, for me fun means the car should deliver fun to all my family while traveling.

Ah, so like an Audi, BWM, Mercedes, Acura, Infiniti or Lexus?

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The Porsche Taycan is pre-ordered more than 30000 times. Most of those customers currently own a Tesla.

Would you mind disclosing your source(s) for both statements?

I Google'd "Porsche Taycan 30000" and found these sources for the 30k pre-orders claim:

* https://thedriven.io/2019/07/31/porsche-taycan-pre-orders-su...

* https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/29/porsche-taycan-reservation...

There is almost-certainly no source for the "most of those customers currently own a Tesla" statement, because that's not something Porsche would ever disclose.

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Looks like a lot of discussion here is about housing, but the CR report suggests that most of the issues are with the infotainment systems in cars. And that includes Tesla. I assume that the ecosystem is big enough to create a 3rd player that’s better than android auto or iOS and better suited for cars specifically.

Ive increasingly been disappointed that there arent better infotainment roundups, or some kind of constantly updating dashboard of comparison.

To your point though, FCA might have something pretty similar to that 3rd party player. Their Uconnect 4 drops into a pretty wide variety of brands they own, I dont know if any car company still makes as many skus and variants as FCA does. Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat,Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, and Ram Trucks, with Peugeot and Citroën coming.

FCAs infotainment system consistently ranks highly in multiple roundups. Overall, European companies rank much higher than Japanese ones.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/car-infotainment-system-a...

https://www.consumerreports.org/automotive-technology/choose...

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> I find it amusing that from a climate change point of view, both their comments are basically negative: It's almost like countries like Germany (350k sq km area) and the US (10 million sq km) have different climates and needs. This thread is filled with Europeans saying, "I went to the US once, and their grocery store didn't have produce like my French neighborhood market!"

You're making so many assumptions in 1 short comment that it's hard to dismiss all of them without writing a novel. But still, this is HN, so let's go: - I'm not German and most of my points apply in quite a bit of the EU - the EU is about 4m sqkm, which while smaller than the US, puts them in roughly the same ballpark (they'd both qualify as "huge countries") - the EU as a whole has at least as diverse climates as t…

>the EU as a whole has at least as diverse climates as the US

It's laughable to talk about "the EU" as if it's in any way homogeneous. It's an economic union, not a country. We are talking about France and Germany, which are tiny and far less diverse in their climate than the US.

>I'm not even sure what to respond to the "needs" part

Perhaps you're unaware that there are places in the US that have frigid winters, and others that have debilitating summer heat. But please, tell us about how you don't need air conditioning in France. That fact is relevant to those in Arizona.

>Let's track back a bit and find out what exactly your argument against high quality German windows is.

My argument here is that it's ridiculous to think that we don't have or use "high quality windows" in North America because you once had friends over to your home that were impressed.

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Yep you buy a WRX for the drivetrain and rally heritage ... the terrible plastic interior was a moot point.

The seats are comfy enough, the steering wheel is beefy, the only point of failure I've had is the battery. Otherwise, it's exactly what it's supposed to be. CR give my other car, a Jaguar F-Pace low marks for "loud engine and cabin, stiff choppy ride and bad infotainment." Which to me sounds like a lot of soccer mom's thought they were getting "luxury" utility vehicle but accidentally purchase a 350hp supercharged v…

These ratings are comparative. If youve mostly interacted with your two brands, and not the other ones at the top of the list, how can you compare them and say yours isnt worse?

Infotainment includes maps, air conditioning, heat, radio. Those are important things to do easily in a car.

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It's the same in the UK, where most of the bread you can get is basically intended for a toaster. But, it's down to volume and consumption; in my country (NL), bread is a daily staple, often featured in two meals a day - so a family will easily go through a loaf a day. It makes more sense to optimize the production and logistics for a shelf life of days instead of weeks. We can get reasonably fresh (factory-produced)…

I might be reaching a bit (also a tangent), but a lot of US's problems are rooted in their urban design and sprawl. From my experience, Americans often do grocery once every couple of weeks, because the super market is usually a non-trivial drive away. I can see how a lot of their foods developed to accommodate that shopping cycle, and forced preservatives that make things last those 2-3 weeks while compromising on f…

I think you are right. My individual situation is different, but it may just be an exception that tests the rule.

And even though we have a selection 2 to 3 stores in 20 minutes drive ( one we could walk to if we chose to forego convenience of one trip a week ), I remember living in locations where access was not as simple.

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> Then you get to grocery stores, and you have to go to the “fancy places” to even get the baseline of quality you see in the rest of the developed world. All the chocolate is bad. While I agree with you on other points, I take issue with this. American grocery stores are a real treat when visiting. Produce is colorful, plentiful, and delicious thanks to American embrace of GMO's and subsidies for farmers. Raw ingred…

> is so obsessed with the discount model, It is really not. Nobody goes to LIDL to buy food, unless has some real money problem. You have to make a different comparison: buy quality food from a local farmer and the same food from a local European farmer. You will notice that in Europe is much more common than you think, it can usually be found in the local market in your neighborhood and it's much cheaper than in the…

Oh, I just learned I have a money problem. Never heard that before. Sure, many Lidl products aren't great in quality, but some are definitely comparable with food bought elsewhere (at a much lower price). And buying non-local produce at a farmers market doesn't really make that much sense.

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> Then you get to grocery stores, and you have to go to the “fancy places” to even get the baseline of quality you see in the rest of the developed world. All the chocolate is bad. While I agree with you on other points, I take issue with this. American grocery stores are a real treat when visiting. Produce is colorful, plentiful, and delicious thanks to American embrace of GMO's and subsidies for farmers. Raw ingred…

I have to agree that it depends on specifics. Being used to the famous and beloved Wegman's in the US, I'm finding the Sainsburys and Tescos of my neighborhood in London to be a real disappointment.

London supermarkets tend to have a bit poorer choice as real estate is so expensive. I found choice to improve the further out you go.

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> CR says Chrysler’s Pacifica was one that contributed to the drop in rankings thanks to the minivan’s infotainment and transmission issues. Every single "downgrade" I read about is either infotainment or transmission or both. Except Honda, which apparently has shit locks on it's kid hauler. I'm a bit skeptical of consumer reports after actually reading it. My car, a Subaru WRX is given low marks for "stiff ride and…

Consumer Reports’ subscriber base trends older which is obviously not the same demographic as affordable performance car buyers. CR is still a great resource if you know nothing about a product market but enthusiasts outgrow it.

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You're making so many assumptions in 1 short comment that it's hard to dismiss all of them without writing a novel. But still, this is HN, so let's go: - I'm not German and most of my points apply in quite a bit of the EU - the EU is about 4m sqkm, which while smaller than the US, puts them in roughly the same ballpark (they'd both qualify as "huge countries") - the EU as a whole has at least as diverse climates as t…

> the EU as a whole has at least as diverse climates as the US It's laughable to talk about "the EU" as if it's in any way homogeneous. It's an economic union, not a country. We are talking about France and Germany, which are tiny and far less diverse in their climate than the US. > I'm not even sure what to respond to the "needs" part Perhaps you're unaware that there are places in the US that have frigid winters, a…

> My argument here is that it's ridiculous to think that we don't have or use "high quality windows" in North America because you once had friends over to your home that were impressed.

I'm not the original poster :-)

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