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Microsoft can't build the kind of developer community that Google and Apple have. The interface is smooth, and the Zune Pass is great, but there has to be more.
If anything, when it comes to getting developer mindshare, it seems like Microsoft has a huge leg up.
I wonder if that number includes giveaways? I recall they gave away approx 100K phones to Microsoft employees alone.
IIRC, it was actually an option to purchase a WP7 phone and get a full refund from the company. Essentially the same thing, but there are plenty of people who haven't exercised the option and are sticking with WM6.x or other devices for the time being. Edit: The giveaway was also different between each branch of MS, EU was handled differently than the US.
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Because most of these are bundle deals to HW makers. Samsung buys 10M OEM licenses for Windows7 for netbooks and MS throws in 1M Win7 phone licenses for free to make it's numbers look good. It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures.
> It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures. With the important distinction people actually read those newspapers.
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Because most of these are bundle deals to HW makers. Samsung buys 10M OEM licenses for Windows7 for netbooks and MS throws in 1M Win7 phone licenses for free to make it's numbers look good. It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures.
Evidence?
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> It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures. With the important distinction people actually read those newspapers.
Um -- have you seen what happens to the newspapers given away in hotels?
Me neither.
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Evidence?
You'd have to wait for a lawsuit for this kind of thing to come to light. Deals like this could be concealed in incentive tiers across products. Say, you buy 1M WP7 licenses for your future phones and you enter a tier where your Win7 license cost decreases enough to offset the cost of the WP7 licenses, plus a small incentive. Your WP7 licenses came, essentially, for free and they can brag about how OEMs are enthusias…
Microsoft can't build the kind of developer community that Google and Apple have. The interface is smooth, and the Zune Pass is great, but there has to be more.
Can't build ? Why not? Developers in general love their tools (Visual Studio), the language has a huge user base (C#), and they're leveraging a rapidly maturing framework (Silverlight). If anything, when it comes to getting developer mindshare, it seems like Microsoft has a huge leg up.
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You'd have to wait for a lawsuit for this kind of thing to come to light. Deals like this could be concealed in incentive tiers across products. Say, you buy 1M WP7 licenses for your future phones and you enter a tier where your Win7 license cost decreases enough to offset the cost of the WP7 licenses, plus a small incentive. Your WP7 licenses came, essentially, for free and they can brag about how OEMs are enthusias…
That could be true, but it's basically idle speculation at this point. It's like accusing someone of murder and when asked for evidence, stating that the evidence will come out when the person is interrogated. Eh?