Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
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#2Why offer a trade? Why not just add the restitution to the full jail sentence?
Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#3Why offer a trade? Why not just add the restitution to the full jail sentence?
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Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#4He empowered her to choose her own justice, her own restitution.
On a related note, I'm reminded of an article that examined the effect choice has on us, and that often, we're happier without it. One of the examples was even, I believe, a study about major medical decisions, that showed patients were happier when doctors decided for them. But I forgot the exact scope of the medical decisions, and can't find the article or study - if anyone else can, I'd be very grateful.
In any case, this article serves as a fine example - the victim is unhappy about being given choice over the punishment.
Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#5Why offer a trade? Why not just add the restitution to the full jail sentence?
An excessive punishment is just as unfair as one that is too lenient.
Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#6Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
An excessive punishment is just as unfair as one that is too lenient.
A lifetime in prison is the right punishment for rape.
I disagree (depending on the case, I guess), but that's a matter of opinion. My answer was merely to explain the judge's actions, and was not intended as a comment on whether this particular sentence is just. If the judge believes the initial jail term was a fair punishment, then if he were to add a fine, he'd have to reduce the jail term, for the punishment to remain fair in his eyes.
Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#8He empowered her to choose her own justice, her own restitution. On a related note, I'm reminded of an article that examined the effect choice has on us, and that often, we're happier without it. One of the examples was even, I believe, a study about major medical decisions, that showed patients were happier when doctors decided for them. But I forgot the exact scope of the medical decisions, and can't find the artic…
I think it's easy to see how the "choice" in this situation comes off as a request to "buy forgiveness" on behalf of the perpetrator. The harm that was done is not primarily financial, financial restitution would never "make it right" at an emotional level, and undermines the desire to quarantine individuals that have proven themselves to be a danger to others. The choice would be insulting to many people, and directly opposed to common ideals about justice.
In light of that, calling it "empowerment" comes off as a little tone-deaf, and I doubt the response would be any different if the judge had unilaterally chosen X years + Y dollars, but it later came to light that X+N years and 0 dollars had been an equally valid option.
Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
An excessive punishment is just as unfair as one that is too lenient.
A lifetime in prison is the right punishment for rape.
And the punishment for murder?
Is murder just as bad as rape, or worse?
If I were the victim of rape I'd want the death penalty, but from the outside I can easily see that that's not just.
Re: Rape victim rejects judge’s offer: $150K for her, reduced sentence for attacker
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
An excessive punishment is just as unfair as one that is too lenient.
A lifetime in prison is the right punishment for rape.
What about Qisas, a traditional Islamic way of performing justice via “eye for an eye”? A victim or their family may choose to inflict equal damage to the guilty party’s body.