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For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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Re: For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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I find this extremely embarrassing. I'm all for the protection of French in Quebec; but stupid decisions like this makes us look bad internationally and make no sense at all. I went to Laval University too, and guess what: my whole thesis, not just one chapter, was in English. Yet, I didn't speak English until I was 18. Am I not French enough for Quebec?

I hope the employee who made this call will get in trouble. English is the language of science at the international level; mandating theses to be written in French (universities don't actually mandate this, but immigrants could now be scared to write it in English) will limit the reach of Quebec's science.

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The decision has already been overturned: https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/11/09/quebec-overturns-deci...

Mistakes like this happen all the time. What's truly telling is how fast it was reversed.

One could argue its only because it got national coverage but I don't think we know for sure.

Ultimately I don't think it matters unless we start seeing a recurring pattern.

Re: For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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post #3

The decision has already been overturned: https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/11/09/quebec-overturns-deci...

Mistakes like this happen all the time. What's truly telling is how fast it was reversed. One could argue its only because it got national coverage but I don't think we know for sure. Ultimately I don't think it matters unless we start seeing a recurring pattern.

Indeed let's hope it was basically a mistake; right now I have a few French (from France) friends doing phds at the same university, and I'm pretty sure that they will have English chapters in their thesis (research paper insertion).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mistakes like this happen all the time. What's truly telling is how fast it was reversed. One could argue its only because it got national coverage but I don't think we know for sure. Ultimately I don't think it matters unless we start seeing a recurring pattern.

Indeed let's hope it was basically a mistake; right now I have a few French (from France) friends doing phds at the same university, and I'm pretty sure that they will have English chapters in their thesis (research paper insertion).

Do they comment on Québécois French? I hear it is closer to 19th century French than modern France.

Re: For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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post #3

The decision has already been overturned: https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/11/09/quebec-overturns-deci...

Mistakes like this happen all the time. What's truly telling is how fast it was reversed. One could argue its only because it got national coverage but I don't think we know for sure. Ultimately I don't think it matters unless we start seeing a recurring pattern.

There already is a recurring pattern. Not exactly like this situation, but a pattern of discriminating against anything that is not French. It's getting completely out of hands. Soon, "non historic anglos" (ie immigrants) won't be allowed to get their hydro bill, correspondence from the government or any service in English.

We moved out of Quebec mostly for the politics 5 years ago and I'm so glad I did. We're never going back.

Re: For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed let's hope it was basically a mistake; right now I have a few French (from France) friends doing phds at the same university, and I'm pretty sure that they will have English chapters in their thesis (research paper insertion).

Do they comment on Québécois French? I hear it is closer to 19th century French than modern France.

Sure they do, but usually it is only a few weeks of adaptation. The differences are well documented, look them up! It's still the same language.

Re: For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mistakes like this happen all the time. What's truly telling is how fast it was reversed. One could argue its only because it got national coverage but I don't think we know for sure. Ultimately I don't think it matters unless we start seeing a recurring pattern.

There already is a recurring pattern. Not exactly like this situation, but a pattern of discriminating against anything that is not French. It's getting completely out of hands. Soon, "non historic anglos" (ie immigrants) won't be allowed to get their hydro bill, correspondence from the government or any service in English. We moved out of Quebec mostly for the politics 5 years ago and I'm so glad I did. We're never…

I mean you wouldn't have this reaction if you moved to France.

Quebec's official language is French - regardless of its status within the rest of Canada. Why would you move it immigrate to Quebec if you are not willing to learn French?

If you like Canada but not French, go to Vancouver or Toronto

Re: For Quebec, a French Woman May Not Be French Enough

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post #2

I find this extremely embarrassing. I'm all for the protection of French in Quebec; but stupid decisions like this makes us look bad internationally and make no sense at all. I went to Laval University too, and guess what: my whole thesis, not just one chapter, was in English. Yet, I didn't speak English until I was 18. Am I not French enough for Quebec? I hope the employee who made this call will get in trouble. Eng…

"I hope the employee who made this call will get in trouble"

Government employees could get in trouble for many reasons. F..ing up living person's lives with moronic decisions is not the one though. Look for example at "Windrush scandal" in UK. The action of the government in my eyes are pure human rights crimes. Good luck finding any person from a government held responsible (never mind put in jail where they belong).

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