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Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by lewiscollard » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #75

vbezhenar wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there definite plans for uBlock Origin not to support new blocking API?

I believe so: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss... And: https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1134127701583904770?s=20

To expand on your comment a little: The new API means uBlock Origin cannot do useful things that it does now. gorhill/Raymond is not refusing to implement a new API, he is refusing to nerf uBlock Origin.

That's a stance I like very much. And it is good news for Firefox for sure, since the roughly 30% (last I checked) of users that use privacy-enhancing extensions are being handed a very good incentive to switch.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by dguo » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 3:57 PM UTC

The post briefly mentions multi-account containers[1]. I have loved using them and regard them as a killer feature for Firefox. Very few websites support account switching. Google is probably the best example, and even then, I don't really want to log in to both my personal and work Gmail within the same session. But containers effectively and cleanly enable multiple sessions for all websites.

Like tabs so many years ago, it's the kind of feature that seems obvious in retrospect. I can't think of a hard technical reason why we couldn't have had container tabs a long time ago. I hope mobile and desktop OSes will one day implement the same feature for apps/programs.

Whoever was involved in coming up with the idea and with implementing it, thank you!

[1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by bitexploder » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 3:59 PM UTC

dguo wrote: post #82

The post briefly mentions multi-account containers[1]. I have loved using them and regard them as a killer feature for Firefox. Very few websites support account switching. Google is probably the best example, and even then, I don't really want to log in to both my personal and work Gmail within the same session. But containers effectively and cleanly enable multiple sessions for all websites. Like tabs so many years…

I literally run my browser in containers to achieve this. I still trust that more than letting the browser manage it. I call it ultra-private mode :)

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by lol768 » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 3:59 PM UTC

swebs wrote: post #17

Dumblydorr wrote: post #2

I use firefox on ubuntu and the performance is terrible. Its constantly crashing, tabs crash individually, it hangs, launching memory heavy websites seems to crash it most often. When I switched to chromium the performance got a lot better.

It only crashes for me after it automatically updates. The devs set it to intentionally crash when you open a new tab. I don't know if that makes it better or worse really. Edit: Here's the related bugzilla report https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463960

>The devs set it to intentionally crash when you open a new tab

Is it intentional? It sounds like the distro's package manager is swapping out the binaries from underneath it whilst it's running. I have some sympathy for the devs here, because I suspect it doesn't happen with the built-in updater (which, let's face it, most users will be using) which probably swaps the binaries on next start-up and just invites the user to restart the browser.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by x3haloed » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:00 PM UTC

I tried for a while. The experience was just too sloppy for me. I got fed up and switched to Chromium Edge. I hate the Pocket integration and other crap they try to shove down your throat. And at work, the lack of integrated Windows authentication was a deal breaker. Plus, Chromium's UI is a lot tamer, cleaner, and focused.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by ivanstegic » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:00 PM UTC

Why is it that there is never any mention of Chrome’s profile switcher? It exists in FF but is so cumbersome to use that I just don’t. I spend time in both browsers but if I could use profiles easily on FF I’d just uninstall Chrome.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by lima » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:01 PM UTC

dguo wrote: post #82

The post briefly mentions multi-account containers[1]. I have loved using them and regard them as a killer feature for Firefox. Very few websites support account switching. Google is probably the best example, and even then, I don't really want to log in to both my personal and work Gmail within the same session. But containers effectively and cleanly enable multiple sessions for all websites. Like tabs so many years…

Chrome supports multiple profiles, and you can seamlessly switch between them using Ctrl-Shift-M and the "Open link as" context menu entry.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by vbezhenar » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #75

vbezhenar wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there definite plans for uBlock Origin not to support new blocking API?

I believe so: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss... And: https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1134127701583904770?s=20

Thanks. uBlock Origin has a unique author who does not bend with "acceptable ads" nonsense and it's a shame to lose that addon. Hopefully something similar will emerge. I think that Chrome developers have a good reason to abandon old API, because Apple did something similar with Safari approach to ad blocking. Also it's a good thing if more users will migrate from Chrome. While I, myself, use it and love it, I think that healthy competition benefits everyone.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by andremendes » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

I've been exclusively using Firefox for browsing and developing for a few years now and I've never thought of looking back. The customization and privacy features plus the possibility of having multiple profiles / accounts side by side in the same window are now a must-have for me.

Re: Using Firefox for a faster, calmer and distraction-free internet

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Post by josefx » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

vbezhenar wrote: post #59

tyingq wrote: post #11

Is Chrome still planning on rolling out manifest v3, which kills uBlock Origin? I imagine that would boost Firefox growth. Edit: Answering my own question...yup, it's in canary as of November 1st. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/google-begins...

Are there definite plans for uBlock Origin not to support new blocking API?

gorhill will not "make uBO less than what it is now".

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/338#iss...