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Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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LineageOS is great, my one complaint is that it is almost never available for the phones I own. You basically have to get phones according to their popularity in a certain subgroup: for example currently one HTC model and two LG models are supported, but close to everything from OnePlus. I know I can get unofficial builds, put apart from the sometimes quite severe missing features (calling or camera not or only parti…

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Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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iPhone user here. Increasingly curious about Android. If I installed LineageOS on a pixel3a, how much information would be going to google by default? How easy is it to avoid google altogether?

Very easy; the default is to have zero google proprietary stuff. In fact, you have to jump through some hoops to get Google play store, Maps etc installed, and it's getting harder and harder as Google locks its services down. Simply set up your default search engine to DDG or whatever you want and your LineageOS phone will send exactly nil to Google.

My understanding is that completely de-googling the phone is somewhat hard because of Google Play Services being a prerequisite for many services. I understand that you can get by without it, but many people find that somewhat of a burden.

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very easy; the default is to have zero google proprietary stuff. In fact, you have to jump through some hoops to get Google play store, Maps etc installed, and it's getting harder and harder as Google locks its services down. Simply set up your default search engine to DDG or whatever you want and your LineageOS phone will send exactly nil to Google.

My understanding is that completely de-googling the phone is somewhat hard because of Google Play Services being a prerequisite for many services. I understand that you can get by without it, but many people find that somewhat of a burden.

The main missing part is a good maps/Waze equivalent. I don't need anything else that's not available on F-Droid. Now I'm a GNU/Linux user of strict observance (depends only on Free Software!), so I probably don't have the same requirements as most.

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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post #3

LineageOS is great, my one complaint is that it is almost never available for the phones I own. You basically have to get phones according to their popularity in a certain subgroup: for example currently one HTC model and two LG models are supported, but close to everything from OnePlus. I know I can get unofficial builds, put apart from the sometimes quite severe missing features (calling or camera not or only parti…

> my one complaint is that it is almost never available for the phones I own

This is the reason that I've only bought Google's handsets. Easy to unlock and always excellent ROM support. Flawless LineageOS support and I have also very good experiences of GrapheneOS (former CopperheadOS).

I buy them when the next model (or the model after that) is out for a fraction of the price. Couldn't care less about getting the latest phone these days. At this level they're pretty much all the same to me.

Only thing to look out for is Google's crappy long term support and security fixes (which even GrapheneOS relies on). For my current Pixel 1 device OS updates were supposed to run out over a year ago. Still, Android 10 was "just" released for the Pixel 1...

[1] https://grapheneos.org/

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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LineageOS was great a few years ago when I used it with my older Nexus devices, but it doesn't seem as maintained nowadays. There's no images for the newer Pixel devices and no Android 10 support, which is a huge shame. Magisk/stock is what I've been using of late.

I'm running LOS 17, which is Android 10 on a Sony XPeria Z3 Compact (!!) without issues (though it requires open g apps nano for GPS to work) :)

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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LineageOS was great a few years ago when I used it with my older Nexus devices, but it doesn't seem as maintained nowadays. There's no images for the newer Pixel devices and no Android 10 support, which is a huge shame. Magisk/stock is what I've been using of late.

I'm running LOS 17, which is Android 10 on a Sony XPeria Z3 Compact (!!) without issues (though it requires open g apps nano for GPS to work) :)

Had a similar issue with GPS on LineageOS 16. Setting the GPS mode to 'Device only' fixed it for me. My guess is the other settings have a hidden dependency on Google Play Services, causing GPS to silently stop working if Play services isn't available.

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very easy; the default is to have zero google proprietary stuff. In fact, you have to jump through some hoops to get Google play store, Maps etc installed, and it's getting harder and harder as Google locks its services down. Simply set up your default search engine to DDG or whatever you want and your LineageOS phone will send exactly nil to Google.

My understanding is that completely de-googling the phone is somewhat hard because of Google Play Services being a prerequisite for many services. I understand that you can get by without it, but many people find that somewhat of a burden.

There is also microG, free reimplemetation of Play Services: https://lineage.microg.org/

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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post #3

LineageOS is great, my one complaint is that it is almost never available for the phones I own. You basically have to get phones according to their popularity in a certain subgroup: for example currently one HTC model and two LG models are supported, but close to everything from OnePlus. I know I can get unofficial builds, put apart from the sometimes quite severe missing features (calling or camera not or only parti…

> I don't want to trust random people on a forum to provide a build of an OS without including malware

Why is it some communities still work like this? With Android dev, sometimes there's even some source on GitHub, but still a forum post is the main place to find the latest version, with the actual download from some questionable-looking download site. If you're lucky they include sha hashes at least.

I've installed a handful of custom ROMs on 3 or 4 devices - most recently resurrecting my old TF101 to run modern Firefox - but I don't think I've ever seen anything like an automated build for one of these. Really, many don't even post source code.

Is there anyone doing this type of Android dev in a "modern" best practices way like most other open source (public git, CI, maybe issue tracker and pull requests)? Why doesn't this catch on more?

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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>HTC are well-known for providing locked-down devices I've been using HTC devices for ages, and so far every one of them was dead-simple to unlock: Just go to the HTC developer page and enter your phone ID, get unlock code and enter on phone, done! Naturally HTC will from there on out decline responsibility for bricked phones, but which company doesn't?

If you're talking about simply unlocking the bootloader, that's as simple on most phones. I'm more referring to the general barriers put up to doing anything with your phone, either before unlocking (the OS itself is restrictively HTC-oriented) or after unlocking (S-ON, etc.) > Naturally HTC will from there on out decline responsibility for bricked phones, but which company doesn't? The fact that this is an accepted…

You can actually permabrick the hardware with a non-compatible or buggy flashed OS. It's an embedded device, so the Linux kernel has access to a lot of stuff that it wouldn't, e.g. on an ordinary PC.

Re: LineageOS Android Distribution

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post #3

LineageOS is great, my one complaint is that it is almost never available for the phones I own. You basically have to get phones according to their popularity in a certain subgroup: for example currently one HTC model and two LG models are supported, but close to everything from OnePlus. I know I can get unofficial builds, put apart from the sometimes quite severe missing features (calling or camera not or only parti…

> my one complaint is that it is almost never available for the phones I own This is the reason that I've only bought Google's handsets. Easy to unlock and always excellent ROM support. Flawless LineageOS support and I have also very good experiences of GrapheneOS (former CopperheadOS). I buy them when the next model (or the model after that) is out for a fraction of the price. Couldn't care less about getting the la…

> This is the reason that I've only bought Google's handsets. Easy to unlock and always excellent ROM support. Flawless LineageOS support

Huh? The most recent Google phone with LineageOS support is the Pixel. The first one, from 2013.

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