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Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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Hadn't heard of Nano server at all. Kinda neat to see this entire howto guide is based on (power)shell commands: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/get-started/...

They do have a lot of cool new stuff but MS is still the same old MS. Tried doing some RAID driver stuff the other day on a Win 2019 test box and wanted to get hit by a train. I have spent so many years in open source land that I forgot how painful it is to get help with obscure errors in Microsoft world. Installing a fresh OS takes what feels like forever, especially account provisioning and unchecking the dozen (literally) trackers/cortana/etc garbage. Simple things feel slow. The UI is clunky, and half the stuff you use is going ot be using a circa-last-last generation UI toolkit anyway so it all looks out of place.

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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I think the pendulum has been swinging from Apple towards Microsoft for developer friendliness for some time now. This is definitely an active strategy on MS's part, and a huge misstep by Apple. Some key parts of the MS strategy: - Embracing Linux. Beyond what's mentioned in the article, there's the Windows Subsystem for Linux, and the new Terminal app. Being able to run Ubuntu (or whichever distribution) natively on…

I just got a surface book at work and am absolutely blown away by it. What a clever, effective product.

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

#34

I think the pendulum has been swinging from Apple towards Microsoft for developer friendliness for some time now. This is definitely an active strategy on MS's part, and a huge misstep by Apple. Some key parts of the MS strategy: - Embracing Linux. Beyond what's mentioned in the article, there's the Windows Subsystem for Linux, and the new Terminal app. Being able to run Ubuntu (or whichever distribution) natively on…

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Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

#35
I'm really curious about where Windows will be in 10 years.

We see MS making launchers for Android, and offering their products more and more cross platform (based on electron + web client). Even switched Edge to be Chromium based.

How long until MS makes a Windows launcher for Linux. As long as they can provide a consistent experience and offer their services, they don't seem to care so much about which OS they champion.

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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post #30

I think the pendulum has been swinging from Apple towards Microsoft for developer friendliness for some time now. This is definitely an active strategy on MS's part, and a huge misstep by Apple. Some key parts of the MS strategy: - Embracing Linux. Beyond what's mentioned in the article, there's the Windows Subsystem for Linux, and the new Terminal app. Being able to run Ubuntu (or whichever distribution) natively on…

What changes here would meaningfully change the competitive balance? A macOS subsystem for Linux doesn't sound interesting. Neither, really, does a new IDE for building macOS and iOS applications. What's the real misstep here? The crappy Apple keyboard?

The parent comment just reads like an ad for windows. Having recently had the displeasure of developing on Windows, WSL is terrible and buggy. I’ve tried it on two different occasions and both times I just ended up going back to PS. That comment will get upvoted because hating Apple is so popular here that even shilling Microsoft will get upvotes when framed like this (I guess the “year of the linux desktop” memes got tired?). Apple still makes the best dev machines (unless you’re writing a .NET app), the keyboard is the only legitimate complaint I can see against them, but most people I know actually kinda like it. Even then, for that to be a deal breaker, you have to pretend as though we don’t all have our MacBooks plugged into two monitors and a mechanical keyboard at work (and have you ever used a Surface keyboard? Yikes...).

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

#38

You can’t judge a company only by its shiny new things; you also have to judge how they’re handling what’s already there. And right now, there are some exceedingly-common things that are far too broken considering how many decades Microsoft has had to fix them. I’m sure we all have our lists but just off the top of my head... - The complete inability of an OS named Windows to remember where any of its windows were a…

Your comment regarding network outages is an issue on macOS as well with certain apps. FileMaker is a good example. Just putting my laptop to sleeps breaks its network connection to the FileMaker server I need to use for $Employer to the point I have to restart FileMaker and login to my $Employer’s system every time my laptop wakes up. I wonder it your issues is more to do with crappy apps rather than windows itself?

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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I think the pendulum has been swinging from Apple towards Microsoft for developer friendliness for some time now. This is definitely an active strategy on MS's part, and a huge misstep by Apple. Some key parts of the MS strategy: - Embracing Linux. Beyond what's mentioned in the article, there's the Windows Subsystem for Linux, and the new Terminal app. Being able to run Ubuntu (or whichever distribution) natively on…

MS has always been super developer friendly as far as I can remember. The difference was in the past you had to buy into their ecosystem and way of thinking. Once that was done, VS was by far the most superior experience. Now MS embraces a greater variety of developers, not just those who bought in.

Anyone remember DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS...?

EDIT: found a clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs

Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft

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I think the pendulum has been swinging from Apple towards Microsoft for developer friendliness for some time now. This is definitely an active strategy on MS's part, and a huge misstep by Apple. Some key parts of the MS strategy: - Embracing Linux. Beyond what's mentioned in the article, there's the Windows Subsystem for Linux, and the new Terminal app. Being able to run Ubuntu (or whichever distribution) natively on…

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