This isn't your father's Microsoft
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This isn't your father's Microsoft
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Re: This isn't your father's Microsoft
#2I'm not really considering it for my personal stuff, but since work is a Microsoft shop, I'm really pushing to get on .NET core. We're at a point where most of our Windows bound stuff is going away and we can start to shed a lot of weight if we can port what remains to .NET Core.
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#3"Maybe the Microsoft strategy is to intro into the Linux/Java/LAMPish/open-source camp community, burnish their image, and hope they consider their commercial offerings."
Try plugging a USB stick with an ext2 partition into Windows 10. At least in 1803, you get TWO dialog boxes asking you to format the partition, with the default being format! In between is another dialog box with just one button. This is the new Microsoft, same as the old Microsoft.
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#5While this isn’t your father’s Microsoft, this is your grandfather’s Microsoft.
Before they started creating business applications and operating systems, Microsoft was in the business of programming tools. Their first software was Microsoft Basic. Microsoft Basic was available on pretty much every major personal computer platform.
Thus in some sense this is Microsoft returning to its roots as a cross-platform programming tools company.
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#6My father is dead.
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#7Yeah, but now Windows bugs, when you encounter them, are stupid as hell.
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#8.NET Core would’ve been really incredible had it come a few years earlier, but I’ve been too busy being enamored by Go and Rust to really consider it more. Still, it is very nice to use when I do use it. I am quite excited by the way it handles async. I had some issues trying to use debuggers under Linux due to licensing... a little bit of “old world” Microsoft?
I really don’t care for Windows 10 at all, and make a point of not running it on any of my machines (I am running Linux everywhere.) I keep checking and rather than getting better it often feels it’s getting worse. The fresh install experience is abysmal.
Is the “new” Microsoft really great? GitHub has been doing awesome, and I love Visual Studio Code, but as much as it pains me to say it they still have a long way to go. It feels like Microsoft, as large a company as it is, is in two places about many of these issues. I still have fears. Can I trust VS Code remoting? (It’s not open source, from what I can tell.) Hard to say. (I still use it, because it’s awesome. But, I have second thoughts every time. It’s hard to shake the feeling that maybe something is off.)
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#9My only real beef with the modern MS stack is the occasional forcing of telemetry and updates on certain products. If they would just quit doing that, without insane hoops to jump through, they'd gain a bunch more trust.
I propose universal opt-out environment variables (e.g. OPT_OUT_ALL_TELEMETRY=1, OPT_OUT_ALL_AUTOMATIC_UPDATES=1) that all software, not just MS's, should pride themselves in respecting.
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#10The one thing that has persuaded me the most has been vscode.
Until switching to that, I had assumed Microsoft incapable of producing something with excellent design/UX. Also it's open source.
Opening Microsoft software every day on my Ubuntu machine and feeling grateful they made it has slowly chipped away at my anti-Microsoft stance.