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Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by megablast »

joshstrange wrote: post #20

> If none of those tactics work, pay-TV subscribers could someday be required to sign into their accounts using their thumbprints. This feels like an idea from some idiot corporate suit who said "Well there are fingerprint readers on phones, let's use that to lock down accounts" without understanding that your app just gets as "Yes" or a "No" when you ask the phone to scan a fingerprint. The apps themselves don't get…

> This feels like an idea from some idiot corporate suit who said "Well there are fingerprint readers on phones, let's use that to lock down accounts" without understanding that your app just gets as "Yes" or a "No" when you ask the phone to scan a fingerprint. The apps themselves don't get to the see the scan.

I don't know what your point is, but that would work just as well for them too.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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SilasX wrote: post #125
magashna wrote: post #9

> “I feel like I’m beating my head against the wall,” Tom Rutledge, the chief executive officer of Charter Communications Inc., said during an earnings call last month. “It’s just too easy to get the product without paying for it.” Boo hoo. All these companies thinking they can split all their content up and get people to pay for every single service are in for a (totally expected) surprise. I'll share my plex server…

>Boo hoo. All these companies thinking they can split all their content up and get people to pay for every single service are in for a (totally expected) surprise. But people complained just as loud when cable TV "made them pay for everything even though they only watch three channels".

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Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by philth_ »

megablast wrote: post #140
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #131

No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

They are coming for them too. Don't think that they have forgotten about them.

They've been coming for torrentors for 15+ years. How's that fight going?

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by awinder »

perennate wrote: post #132
joshstrange wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can tell you I know a number of people who pay for Netflix/Amazon Prime/Apple TV+/Hulu/HBO/etc and then turn around and pirate the same content because watching it though Plex/other is simply a better experience. And frankly, I 100% understand where they are coming from: 1. What platform was I watching show X on? 2. Oh Platform X removed show Y? Well it's also on Platform Z but now I can't remember where I was in t…

Another issue: they all want you to have proprietary non-free DRM software in your web browser that is a big pain to install. None of these services "just work" like you'd expect, and users have to spend a lot of time configuring their browser for services like Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. And in the end all that configuration work just ends up making your browser much less secure with code from untrusted sources…

This is like, one of my top reasons for thinking there's undisputed superiority (FOR THIS USECASE) in Apple's platform. They own the full stack, so there's nothing to install and it does work exactly like you'd expect it to. Yes yes you have to then own their devices and I know not everyone is in love with that but if you want to consume content, that you pay for, and not fight against the tech you're paying for, it's either Apple or buying blu-rays

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by khc »

option wrote: post #134
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #131

No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

plus I don’t have to sign up on yet another service for just one film/show. I am 100% in for paying for the films/shows. Just give me a convenient cross-platform option to do so without any BS

Don't Google/Apple all have pay per view for movies and shows? You don't have to have a subscription.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by megablast »

basch wrote: post #85
magashna wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix showed how much content you could get for a cheap cost relative to cable. Now everyone company wants to charge the same for their meager library.

Netflix pricing was always temporary. Content owners werent ready to destroy their old business models, they temporarily rented licensing rights to Netflix while they figured out how they were going to handle shifts in consumption. It's almost the same thing as Uber prices being VC subsidized. And now Disney is following the same playbook, sell Disney+ at or below cost for a while until they can inflate MAU enough th…

> Content owners werent ready to destroy their old business models, they temporarily rented licensing rights to Netflix while they figured out how they were going to handle shifts in consumption.

No, they saw a new revenue stream, and jumped on it. Then they saw where things were heading, and they would have less control if Netflix took over, so they all pulled back and started up their own streaming services.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by BubRoss »

megablast wrote: post #140
LeoNatan25 wrote: post #131

No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

They are coming for them too. Don't think that they have forgotten about them.

HBO has been monitoring torrents for a long time and sending letters to ISPs. VPNs and seed boxes get around this.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by megablast »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #43
mrkstu wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they all follow Disney's pricing model, that would work, but everyone wants too big a slice of the pie.

Disney has admitted that they will lose money at their current price level. Which implies strongly that they'll be increasing prices substantially in the future.

They admitted they will lose money for the first few years, not forever. Like almost every single product. Do you think the iPhone or Xbox made a profit in the first few years, when you count the money spent on research and factories?

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Post by criddell »

reaperducer wrote: post #117
basch wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Old college roommates from 15 years ago who live on the other side of the country. Coworkers. People they meet in bars. None of these are legitimate. But you can lend those people a Blu-Ray, which only deprives you of watching it while they have it.

Which is perfectly fine. Just as it's perfectly fine for you to purchase a Netflix subscription for someone else.

Wouldn't the analogy be that you lend them your service credentials and don't use it until they are done with it?
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