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Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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> I'm willing to concede there are some people stealing who would pay but I can promise you it's nowhere near 100%. Hell, if the situation with games is any indication there are people who will pirate the game after paying for it to get rid of always-on requirements or other intrusive DRM.

I can tell you I know a number of people who pay for Netflix/Amazon Prime/Apple TV+/Hulu/HBO/etc and then turn around and pirate the same content because watching it though Plex/other is simply a better experience. And frankly, I 100% understand where they are coming from: 1. What platform was I watching show X on? 2. Oh Platform X removed show Y? Well it's also on Platform Z but now I can't remember where I was in t…

Another issue: they all want you to have proprietary non-free DRM software in your web browser that is a big pain to install. None of these services "just work" like you'd expect, and users have to spend a lot of time configuring their browser for services like Amazon Prime Video and Netflix. And in the end all that configuration work just ends up making your browser much less secure with code from untrusted sources like Google Widevine (a company whose objective is to serve you ads that are personalized as much as possible by tracking your every movement and click).

Firefox tries to sandbox Widevine but this code is from a dirty company and you can bet it's trying to break out of that sandbox.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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making a copy of something is not the same as stealing

You're right - it's not stealing, but it's not right either. Do you think there should be no intellectual rights? Are you OK with everyone copying whatever side-project revenue stream you may have without paying you?

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Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

plus I don’t have to sign up on yet another service for just one film/show.

I am 100% in for paying for the films/shows. Just give me a convenient cross-platform option to do so without any BS

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

plus I don’t have to sign up on yet another service for just one film/show. I am 100% in for paying for the films/shows. Just give me a convenient cross-platform option to do so without any BS

can't you just subscribe to all of them and use Apple TV or some Smart TV for the seamless experience?

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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plus I don’t have to sign up on yet another service for just one film/show. I am 100% in for paying for the films/shows. Just give me a convenient cross-platform option to do so without any BS

can't you just subscribe to all of them and use Apple TV or some Smart TV for the seamless experience?

AppleTV doesnt have a deep integration into all of the streaming services available on the device. But they are at least trying to resolve the fragmentation issues.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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So far no solution besides “pirating” has met this one simple requirement: “On-demand access to any movie or TV show I can think of that has ever been digitized, from one service.” That’s it. If you can provide that, take my money. In the, say 20 years since broadband existed, literally no legit company has offered this yet, for any price.

I find it interesting that Spotify, Apple, Pandora and others can do this for (95%+ of) music, but no one can do it for movies or TV.

People listen to the same songs a couple dozen times. Maybe more. They watch the same show once, maybe twice. So the opportunity to monetize is far lower and the cost to produce is far higher. It never takes $1m to make a song, now we have television shows with million dollar per episode production budgets.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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I remember 10 years ago that the answer to rayiner's question was always "I don't want to pay a ton of money for a whole bundle of crap I don't want when all I want to watch is one specific thing." I saw it all the time. Now people complain about the complexities of unbundling. It's fairly clear to me that these complaints, while real, aren't the core issue which is: people would rather get content for free than pay…

It's also because every company wants their walled garden à la Apple. It's unbundled, but still bundled. Sell a movie or a season of episodes for $1-5 and no one will be able to complain about this anymore.

Sell the movie AND give me download options that don't amount to just a license you can revoke at any time, and then we're talking.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

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plus I don’t have to sign up on yet another service for just one film/show. I am 100% in for paying for the films/shows. Just give me a convenient cross-platform option to do so without any BS

can't you just subscribe to all of them and use Apple TV or some Smart TV for the seamless experience?

Yes, for $200/mo, and you cannot watch when you're on the go with just laptop and no Apple TV device, and when Amazon and Netflix go bankrupt you won't be able to go back and watch all that content.

At least nowadays we can still get most content on DVD. It just feels like a waste with the physical media.

Re: Netflix, HBO and Cable Giants Are Coming for Password Sharers

#140

No worries, I'll just use the torrent sharers. I bet those will give me a constant 4K quality on all my devices, no ridiculous DRM, get to keep them once I terminate my "subscription", etc. Oh and it's free, not 10-15$ USD for each service.

They are coming for them too. Don't think that they have forgotten about them.
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