I wonder if that number includes giveaways? I recall they gave away approx 100K phones to Microsoft employees alone.
I think MS has around 90k employees globally, and that includes everyone, not just engineers. So 100k sounds a little high.
Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
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Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#22It seems that this is licenses sold rather than activations. I'd be interested in knowing their total activations for the quarter though it's certainly lower. Doesn't compare well with the 300,000 activations/day Google claim to be doing.
Yeah, 2 million shipments over 3 months is around 33,000 a day, which is only 10% (or less, given Android's accelerating growth) of the activations that Google sees. And of course, not all those shipments are activations. I wonder if they're not telling us about the activation numbers out because they're too low? Why else hide that information that every other company is bragging about? Not a quarter goes by where Ap…
10% is consistent with the market share numbers reported in the article:
> Microsoft’s share of the smartphone operating-system market declined to 2.8 percent [...] Android’s share increased to 25.5 percent [...]
Assuming that Windows Mobile 6.5- numbers are negligible by now.
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#23I've one :) got because of BOGO deal.
Samsung Focus's screen is awesome the SuperAMOLED really shows anyone who sees it really likes the screen and that includes iPhone and Nexus owners and others.
Marketplace really is not there, the apps are junk and even the marketplace app itself is slow to load on cellular connections and it really shows. the search is pathetic it seems they intentionally show you the songs along with apps even if all I want is apps
MS needs to update the OS and they need to do it fast and frequently otherwise in next six months to year they'll be out of this game forever
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number of active Facebook native app users for Windows Phone 7 is probably a pretty reliable metric for active usage. Windows Phone 7 / 366K http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=7933375107&#... Blackberry http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/facebo...
Facebook for Android has close to 1 Million users, does that mean Android has sold 1 Million handsets (It has 300,000 activations everyday). I think assuming that everyone in this world is on Facebook is a wrong assumption.
It's more like 25 millions: http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/facebo...
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#25I've one :) got because of BOGO deal. Samsung Focus's screen is awesome the SuperAMOLED really shows anyone who sees it really likes the screen and that includes iPhone and Nexus owners and others. Marketplace really is not there, the apps are junk and even the marketplace app itself is slow to load on cellular connections and it really shows. the search is pathetic it seems they intentionally show you the songs alon…
> MS needs to update the OS and they need to do it fast and frequently otherwise in next six months to year they'll be out of this game forever
There's an OS update on the way :)
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, 2 million shipments over 3 months is around 33,000 a day, which is only 10% (or less, given Android's accelerating growth) of the activations that Google sees. And of course, not all those shipments are activations. I wonder if they're not telling us about the activation numbers out because they're too low? Why else hide that information that every other company is bragging about? Not a quarter goes by where Ap…
Because most of these are bundle deals to HW makers. Samsung buys 10M OEM licenses for Windows7 for netbooks and MS throws in 1M Win7 phone licenses for free to make it's numbers look good. It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures.
> It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures.
With the important distinction people actually read those newspapers.
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#27It's easy to calculate. They claimed to have shipped 1.5Mio to carriers on the 21th of December. Now they claim it's 2 Mio. I'd expect that the carriers only order new phones after the old ones have been sold, so one can wager that the carriers sold around 500.000 phones since december the 21th. So that's around 500.000 / 37. That makes it around 13.000 activations a day. So given that the device was introduced begin…
I'm not so sure about this. If I'm Acme Phone Retailer and I ordered and stocked 150 phones for launch, and 3 months later I still have 100 of them, I'm not placing an order for another 50 phones. That would not only tie up valuable capital for a badly-selling product, but also tie up shelf space in the back and shelf space in the front.
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because most of these are bundle deals to HW makers. Samsung buys 10M OEM licenses for Windows7 for netbooks and MS throws in 1M Win7 phone licenses for free to make it's numbers look good. It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures.
> It's like newspapers handing out free copies to hotels to boost their circulation figures. With the important distinction people actually read those newspapers.
And even the Daily Mail can be used to line the cat's litter tray!
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#29At $8-$15 per license they are charging, thats $16-$30M. They still have some ground to make up on the $1B or so dropped on the Kin. Does not seem like this can ever be a profitable business for them - especially compared to the $149-$499 they get per Office license.
> They still have some ground to make up on the $1B or so dropped on the Kin. Did they really spend $1B on the Kin? Do you have a breakdown on what they spent that much money on?
One report says Microsoft spent $500 million acquiring Danger as part of the Pink/Kin project. http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/how-much-did-microsoft-pay-for-...
Re: Microsoft Shipped 2 Million Units of Windows Phone 7 Software Last Quarter
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number of active Facebook native app users for Windows Phone 7 is probably a pretty reliable metric for active usage. Windows Phone 7 / 366K http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=7933375107&#... Blackberry http://statistics.allfacebook.com/applications/single/facebo...
Facebook for Android has close to 1 Million users, does that mean Android has sold 1 Million handsets (It has 300,000 activations everyday). I think assuming that everyone in this world is on Facebook is a wrong assumption.
But Microsoft made an active decision to integrate WP7 with Facebook. Beyond that their marketing for the phone revolves entirely around social {or more accurately keeping up with your social network without spending your whole life doing so)
CNN even had an article entitled "WP7 is the real Facebook Phone" (http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-15/tech/windows.phone.facebo...)
Put another way WP7 is to Facebook as Google Services are to Android. There might be a few rare individuals who use Android but don't have a gmail account but those people are by far the exception.