Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans • Hacker News Board

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by xentronium » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:28 PM UTC

_pius wrote: post #28

Why do people use NetBeans for Rails?

Because it's fast and it can do code lookups. Rubymine, for example, is order of magnitude slower, even with most features turned off.

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by dirtyhand » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:29 PM UTC

This is actually good news. The company I work at would never hire a Rails developer that uses ANY sort of IDE. Learn to use a good text editor and learn the Rails CLI.

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by noarchy » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:30 PM UTC

This is an unfortunate move, though I expect that the community will do what it can to pick up the pieces here (which Oracle seems to state openly that they want to see happen). NetBeans has improved so much over the years, I hate to see "official" features like this get tossed out.

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by hamletdrc2 » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:31 PM UTC

hopeless wrote: post #22

Nooooo.... I've gradually moved away from NetBeans as a general Ruby/Rails editor but I often came back for the great debugging support. Any suggestion for alternative Rails debuggers?

I have heard positive things said about RubyMine from JetBrains. However, it is not free and some complain of slow project parse times at startup. Disclaimer: I do have an off and on professional relationship with JetBrains.

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by smitjel » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:31 PM UTC

Now more than ever, give vim + rails.vim a try. You won't bother with bloated IDE's anymore.

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by rufugee » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:34 PM UTC

epochwolf wrote: post #7

I've only found NetBeans useful under Windows. I've had a number of interface problems on Linux and OSX that make it unusable. (Dialogs showing up blank all the time and other problems)

Those blank dialog issues are caused by Compiz, not Linux. You can either turn Compiz off, or try setting this in your profile:

export AWT_Toolkit=MToolkit

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by steveklabnik » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:34 PM UTC

hopeless wrote: post #22

Nooooo.... I've gradually moved away from NetBeans as a general Ruby/Rails editor but I often came back for the great debugging support. Any suggestion for alternative Rails debuggers?

ruby-debug?

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by kj12345 » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:35 PM UTC

bowmande wrote: post #9

mjuhl24 wrote: post #3

Any suggestions on an alternative IDE?

I use TextMate, but have been trying to make the switch to vim.

Are you seeing any benefit yet? (I've tried that switch myself but I think I gave up too early).

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by msy » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:38 PM UTC

You know between Java, Hudson and moves like this it feels like we're ripe for an Onion-style article about Oracle execs running out of ideas for pissing off the OSS community and so doing a road-trip around the country to individually insult every OSS developer and user in the most graphic and personal way they can think of.

Re: Oracle discontinues Ruby/Rails support for NetBeans

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Post by rufugee » Thu, Jan 27, 2011, 4:38 PM UTC

dirtyhand wrote: post #32

This is actually good news. The company I work at would never hire a Rails developer that uses ANY sort of IDE. Learn to use a good text editor and learn the Rails CLI.

What about those who know a good text editor, know the Rails CLI, and still prefer an IDE? There are worthwhile features that an IDE can do that a text editor can't (easily).

If I were running your company, I'd focus more on the individual I was hiring and what they bring to the table, and less on if they're using the hippest tools.