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Move fast and kill people?
Kill people ..learn from their deaths...deploy ..kill more people and learn from their deaths..deploy the latest...rinse and repeat until maybe decades later these robots are safer then human drivers. Progress is going to be a killer!
I would assume, like in the USA, the person who hit the "summon" button would be liable for anything the car did.
But as the article said, that liability may not be covered by that person's vehicle insurance in British Columbia > In the recent incident in Richmond, thankfully, there was no accident. Had an accident occurred, the vehicle owner's insurance may not have provided coverage. I don't think anyone disagrees that the vehicle's driver is liable (regardless of physically being in the vehicle or using summon). The issue her…
Imagine you're driving along the road, see a pedestrian crossing and see a pedestrian on it. You hit the brake but brake doesn't work, because of the manufacturing flaw (later one they will issue a recall but not just yet) so you hit someone. I think it is pretty obvious that manufacturer of the car is liable in this case. Although you still get into trouble, all the investigation, courts, etc.
> Plus what happens if a third party activates summon, for example a toddler.
In Australia, in NSW, you're responsible if you didn't take the precautions necessary and someone, who's not supposed to drive your car, gains access to it.
Like if you left your windows/doors open and/or car keys in the car or engine running and someone without licenses got inside and drove it, there is a fine.
“Driverless” is going to see a fast and final end when a small child gets killed by one of these robots and the owner, manufacturer, and every insurance company within throwing distance gets a billion dollar lawsuit judgement. There is much hubris going around about AI and machine vision with business people and grad students taking lives into their hands and not seriously handling the responsibility.
No one is going to get a billion dollar judgement over a death from a self-driving car. If you think every tech company working on a driverless system doesn't have an entire legal team behind them waiving away liabilities then I have a bridge to sell you.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jury-awards-couple-2billion-mon...
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What if the phone erroneously detected an action? AKA a pocket summon. Is the phone manufacturer liable in that case?
Would the car endlessly follow the person around the mall? Is there a timeout? Seems like after x minutes it should self park and update the app.
The only thing that has made me think about enabling summon is that in order to be able to remotely open your garage door via the Tesla app, using the transceiver in the car, you must have Summon enabled. Being able to open the garage door from thousands of miles away would be quite handy in case a family member was locked out. But I still haven't done it.
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What if the phone erroneously detected an action? AKA a pocket summon. Is the phone manufacturer liable in that case?
To get a sense of what would be required to "pocket summon" the car, you'd have to: - pocket unlock phone - pocket open tesla app - pocket scroll down to Summon - pocket click Summon - pocket select "Smart Summon" from within the Summon screen - pocket click the target button on the map - pocket hold down the "come to me" button continuously All this while being within 200ft of the car.
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What if the phone erroneously detected an action? AKA a pocket summon. Is the phone manufacturer liable in that case?
To get a sense of what would be required to "pocket summon" the car, you'd have to: - pocket unlock phone - pocket open tesla app - pocket scroll down to Summon - pocket click Summon - pocket select "Smart Summon" from within the Summon screen - pocket click the target button on the map - pocket hold down the "come to me" button continuously All this while being within 200ft of the car.
> Vancouver lawyer Paul Doroshenko said there are no laws against what he saw in the video I am absolutely positive that it is illegal to drive on the wrong side of the road in Canada. Was this really the only legal expert they could find?
Is that still illegal on private property/land, which I assume a mall car park is?
I retract my claim. Thanks.
I have a Tesla, and summon has always scared me. I've never used it. I never plan to use this "smart summon" either. The only thing that has made me think about enabling summon is that in order to be able to remotely open your garage door via the Tesla app, using the transceiver in the car, you must have Summon enabled. Being able to open the garage door from thousands of miles away would be quite handy in case a fam…
Doesn't look like, from the admittedly short video, that there's too much confusion from the people around it, other than the lady near the stop sign at the end, and that seems only because she's trying to decide if the car is going to stop for her.
And that was likely the best short clip that would somehow fit the headline. The car is so slow and timid, it looks more confused than the people walking by.