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Driverless Tesla coasting along mall parking lot causes confusion

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Re: Driverless Tesla coasting along mall parking lot causes confusion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if the phone erroneously detected an action? AKA a pocket summon. Is the phone manufacturer liable in that case?

To get a sense of what would be required to "pocket summon" the car, you'd have to: - pocket unlock phone - pocket open tesla app - pocket scroll down to Summon - pocket click Summon - pocket select "Smart Summon" from within the Summon screen - pocket click the target button on the map - pocket hold down the "come to me" button continuously All this while being within 200ft of the car.

This can totally happen. You might have already had the summon view up and targeted already, ready to leave, when your friend mentions something to you and you just stick your phone in your pocket.

Re: Driverless Tesla coasting along mall parking lot causes confusion

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post #7

Doesn't look like, from the admittedly short video, that there's too much confusion from the people around it, other than the lady near the stop sign at the end, and that seems only because she's trying to decide if the car is going to stop for her.

And that was likely the best short clip that would somehow fit the headline. The car is so slow and timid, it looks more confused than the people walking by.

Re: Driverless Tesla coasting along mall parking lot causes confusion

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post #3

I would assume, like in the USA, the person who hit the "summon" button would be liable for anything the car did.

What if the phone erroneously detected an action? AKA a pocket summon. Is the phone manufacturer liable in that case?

This is not possible. You have to hold down the summon button in order for this to work.

Re: Driverless Tesla coasting along mall parking lot causes confusion

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post #21

“Driverless” is going to see a fast and final end when a small child gets killed by one of these robots and the owner, manufacturer, and every insurance company within throwing distance gets a billion dollar lawsuit judgement. There is much hubris going around about AI and machine vision with business people and grad students taking lives into their hands and not seriously handling the responsibility.

Move fast and kill people?

Kill people ..learn from their deaths...deploy ..kill more people and learn from their deaths..deploy the latest...rinse and repeat until maybe decades later these robots are safer then human drivers.

Progress is going to be a killer!

Re: Driverless Tesla coasting along mall parking lot causes confusion

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> Vancouver lawyer Paul Doroshenko said there are no laws against what he saw in the video I am absolutely positive that it is illegal to drive on the wrong side of the road in Canada. Was this really the only legal expert they could find?

Is that still illegal on private property/land, which I assume a mall car park is?
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