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Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by snazz »

WA wrote: post #33
snazz wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PWAs still feel very janky in real life. They’re slow, you can’t do any complex animations, weird bugs always show up, etc. Most importantly, they still feel like websites , which isn’t a good thing. Reimplementing something of the complexity of Snapchat as a PWA would be impossible: seamless camera usage, real-time AR filters, smooth animations, swipe gestures, usable built-in maps, video without buffering, and it’s…

Depends. Which app does need complex animations? And you could very well build Twitter as a PWA (and probably FB). Maybe not Snapchat. Most apps aren't heavy on filters, camera and video.

That’s valid, I guess. I think that if a social network wants to take off today (especially amongst people under the age of 25), it’s going to need to be a little fancier than Twitter. But PWAs could replace a lot of the more basic applications that exist today.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by pavel_lishin »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #49
pavel_lishin wrote: post #45

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I will say that it's probably possible to min-max or speedrun a relationship, but I don't think it's easy, and I don't think we're at the stage where a phone app can do it for you. I also don't think it would feel very fun, and is probably not good for you.

As though the normal means of forming relationships is fun or good for you? How many people commit suicide over failed relationships? How many people are committed to bad relationships due to sunk cost fallacy? Forming relationships is a pain in the ass no matter how you slice it.

> As though the normal means of forming relationships is fun or good for you?

I'm sorry if you've had a bad experience, but for the most part, I've enjoyed making friends.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by luckydata »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #19

> Friended wants to give users a deeper and more meaningful connection to one another, which the company believes they crave. > The idea is to give people a chance to share how they really feel in a vulnerable, one-to-one setting. In playing around with the app, I had conversations with people about how to make friends in NYC and why it sometimes feel like others don’t care about us as much as we care about them. I'm…

yeah but it also takes someone willing to make time for it. It's difficult to find. I had a reasonably close acquaintance tell me "between work and family I'm booked until the end of the year" which sounds like bullshit to me (I also have a job and family).

Usually I take that as "you annoy me" and just refocus on other relationships. Then he comes out of nowhere and invites me to a BBQ six months down the line, or to hang out with him at his place.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by aldoushuxley001 »

aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #21
rogerkirkness wrote: post #18

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I love the outrage about $20/month. It's clear that social networks create almost no individual utility at all, and that the reason we have privacy violating ones in the first place is that people "really want it" but also really don't want to pay for it. Facebook will clearly win, based on the comments about pricing. People don't value privacy, they value free stuff.

The comment your replying to said they would be willing to pay $1 a month for a social network, so there’s definitely appetite for paid social networks, but $20 a month is understandably a crazy price.

idk if people are downvoting me because they think $20 a month for a social network isn't crazy, or if they think that someone willing to pay $1 a month isn't a sign of appetite for paid social networks...

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by enraged_camel »

Multicomp wrote: post #4

I like the idea, but 2 things. 1) where did they get the prices of $4.99 a week? Facebook's average revenue per user per quarter is ~$25. That's approximately $1.50 a week, for their most profitable section. Elsewhere, FB makes $6 ARPU per quarter, or around 37¢ a week. I'd be willing to pay $1 a month for a social network if it manages to get around the network effects etc. but ~$20(!) for something Facebook enables…

>>Limited resources excuses can be answered with 'do a mobile web so all mobiles can'.

Nope, it really can't. It takes a lot of effort, and can be a major pain in the ass, to develop a web app UI to look good and work well on both mobile and desktop. Every single time I do it, I end up regretting it.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by Timberwolf »

If you take "the idea is to give people a chance to share how they really feel in a vulnerable, one-to-one setting" and replace "one-to-one" with "small group" then this feels very close to the way many people used LiveJournal at its peak. Maybe slightly different in that the one-to-one stuff wasn't automated: people would have public posts in which they'd share more generic stuff, then curate private friend groups from people who responded in ways that suggested they would have empathy. These private networks would be where the more vulnerable things got shared and discussed.

Of course as a community it was much derided - teens and young adults finding their way in the world looked naive and emotionally immature from the outside - but it's interesting seeing someone trying to bring that pre-Facebook sense of sharing with a small and sympathetic group back.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by brontide »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #46
ReptileMan wrote: post #31

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> It. Takes. Time. That's it. There's no shortcut There is - being in deep shit together for a brief time. The deeper the shit the shorter the time needed for a true friendship.

Announcing my new app: Shittr. You pay me $1000, and I will put you, alongside two other people, through a miserable grind of an experience. One of you will not survive; the other two will form a long-lasting bond.

One step further – all that miserable work can be productive! Match prospective couples/friends with someone who has a grueling job they need completed (e.g. help me move this refrigerator). It's like Tinder x TaskRabbit – couples fulfilling your Instacart order as a first date.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by malandrew »

luckydata wrote: post #53
pavel_lishin wrote: post #19

> Friended wants to give users a deeper and more meaningful connection to one another, which the company believes they crave. > The idea is to give people a chance to share how they really feel in a vulnerable, one-to-one setting. In playing around with the app, I had conversations with people about how to make friends in NYC and why it sometimes feel like others don’t care about us as much as we care about them. I'm…

yeah but it also takes someone willing to make time for it. It's difficult to find. I had a reasonably close acquaintance tell me "between work and family I'm booked until the end of the year" which sounds like bullshit to me (I also have a job and family). Usually I take that as "you annoy me" and just refocus on other relationships. Then he comes out of nowhere and invites me to a BBQ six months down the line, or t…

I'm one of these people that is bad at hanging out with others. I want to hang out with people, but life can be exhausting and sometimes you just want to cancel (or not even make plans) so you can just stay home and rest.

I think one of the things about modern life, especially urban life, that makes things most complicated is that it is increasingly harder to mix friends so instead of some stable group you hang out with when you're feeling like it, you end up having to juggle multiple individual friendships and your own personal time.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by mattbrewsbytes »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #44
poutrathor wrote: post #42

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"Time" : https://www.futurity.org/friends-time-1718952-2/ It's actually pretty fast actually. 200 hours is nothing. What really happens is that grown up don't invest the required hours because their days are already filled to the brink. 200 hours would be 1 hour drink 4 time a week during a whole year. Once you word it that way, for sure, you got a friendship running ! Or as someone said below being in deep shit. Fir…

> Or as someone said below being in deep shit. Yeah. There's ways to force or speed up the process. I think a lot of corporate team-building activities are basically this; "let's go do something miserable to simulate closeness."

A funny outcome, possibly intentional, is a cheesy activity may force the common bond just because they are all going thru the miserable activity.

Re: Friended is a new social network that wants to get real

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Post by brontide »

the-dude wrote: post #50
choward wrote: post #10

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$4.99 a week has to be a joke, right? $20 a month is about double what I pay for Netflix and half of my phone bill. Just to send messages to people? I'm sure the article is leaving things out but as of right now I don't get this at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

High price doesn't necessarily indicate a Veblen good. The best case for it not being a Veblen good is that its difficult to showcase status to the people who aren't subscribers, unlike a an expensive iPhone/purse/etc.
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