German government expands subsidies for electric cars

Post by rorykoehler » Tue, Nov 05, 2019, 8:44 PM UTC

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Of course a giant company like Volkswagen won't turn around on a dime, it will be a slow transition; and probably never a complete one. But just from the fact that electric cars have a 5 times higher share of new registrations than of existing cars shows that it's a growing market, and adoption curves usually grow exponentially until you approach market saturation. Volkswagen is doing a lot to get a bigger piece of t…

> Of course a giant company like Volkswagen won't turn around on a dime, it will be a slow transition; and probably never a complete one. Yes, there is a long tail of applications where EVs are not a reasonable proposition. Emergency services (police, medical, fire fighting) come to mind immediately. There is pretty much no way you can built an all-electric fire truck with batteries that isn't much worse than ICE fir…

Post by richardknop » Tue, Nov 05, 2019, 9:28 PM UTC

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That's an expensive car in European standards. 20k is what most people pay for a car here. 45k car is a luxury imho.

Which Europe are you talking about? 20k gets you a halfway decent Dacia at best...

Post by tgsovlerkhgsel » Tue, Nov 05, 2019, 10:10 PM UTC

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May I ask why you wouldn't be able to charge it at home? It is my understanding that most people simply charge their electric cars overnight, much like their phones.

Perhaps I am in the minority but my home is an apartment complex so I park in the parking lot. There are no chargers in the parking lot. Either way (I could be wrong) I don't think you can just plug it into a 120V outlet to get a charge.

Post by close04 » Wed, Nov 06, 2019, 1:16 AM UTC

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You can but with a standard 120V (12/15A) outlet you'd spend days charging an EV with a large battery. Anything that takes more than 8-10 hours is not really a feasible option. A 240V outlet can be 32A which would be a lot more reasonable in terms of charging time.

it adds about 5 miles per hour for model 3. So after charging overnight it would be at least 50 miles of range added. And this is enough for many.

Post by anoncake » Wed, Nov 06, 2019, 6:24 AM UTC

sparkling wrote: post #21

I doubt this is going to do anything. About 50% of the population in Germany are renters, not owners. And for the other 50% owners, many just own a unit in a multi family building, not the whole property. For manyyyyy of these people there simply is no option to conveniently fast charge their electric vehicle at home. No renter will want to invest in a pricey wallbox at a property that they don't own - even if the la…