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Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#71
it's alright. could be better, could be worse, but thanks for asking!

I'm currently physically not well, I have the symptoms of hypopituidarism with all the hormonal imbalance issues and it's taken a mental toll. waiting to get my brains scanned.

I'm burnt out, not because of my work but my physical health makes my work mentally too hard and tiring for me.

So, I'm gonna quit after taking a longer sick leave. I made up my mind a few months ago and I've just tried to finish in up my loose ends at work, but haven't disclosed any of my issues to anyone at work yet. it's a bit shitty thing to do, but I'm awkward and I'd feel bad if I knew I'd have to go back there for a month after handing in my resignation.

So, there's that basically.

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#72
People today have very good rational and reasonable reasons to feel like shit. The corporate or 'world' value system is at odds with what we viscerally understand being compatible with any sort of quality future. We are angry and frustrated because we have every fucking reason to be so.

So what now?

    * You acknowledge that most stress comes from value system miss-alignment and its implications. 
    * You start or continue doing whatever you can to get the real issues fixed. 
    * You need to come to a place where you are able to survive today
        * Exercise
        * Read Kafka
        * Read the meditations of Marcus Aurelius
        * Find a friend https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3CBOpT2-NRvoc2ecFMDCsA

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#73
post #53

The issue with most kinds of mental health is that the more it affects you the less you're aware of the fact that it's affecting you. My mental health, without any discernible disorders, reached a very low point last year where I essentially stormed out of a HR meeting because I was "toxic", the toxicity revolved around feelings of frustration due to the fact that I couldn't get anyone to look at a problem I had for…

Yes. Get the hell out as soon as you can! I made a change a few weeks ago after going through a milder version of what you're experiencing. I took a pay cut but I am so, so much happier.

I don't dread waking up anymore. I like being alive again. I haven't complained to my wife even once since I left my last job. The guilt of piling my work problems on my wife was getting big, but I needed so badly to confide in someone about it.

Good luck! You can do it!!

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#74

With an anxiety disorder, tracking your mental health more frequently than weekly is very likely seriously counterproductive.

Expanding now I've got more time: Obviously, thinking about having a mental health issue is itself likely to make you more anxious. Butat least some (all?) anxiety disorders are theorised to be runaway feedback loops. For example, social anxiety : worrying about some minor stumble occupies part of your brain and makes it harder to pay the attention necessary for good social interactions, and bad (or just indifferent) interactions make one more anxious, closing the loop. In this situation, paying attention to the anxiety is maladaptive.

Hopefully someone more qualified than me will correct this/ let us know how widely applicable it is.

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#75

Bad, but slowly improving I think. I came close to committing suicide a couple of times in the last few months. After the first episode, I opened up to a close friend and family member about it. Then I decided to give therapy a shot. After the second attempt, I decided to try antidepressants. I'm on my second week of taking Lexapro 10mg and I think it's starting to make a difference.

Sending you a virtual hug. Hang in there.

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#76
I'm going to post something that's not directly on topic, and is perhaps not that interesting in the grand scheme of things.

And it is going to ramble a bit. There is a summary at the end.

Shortly after 11am Pacific, 12 days ago, on his 74th birthday, my father walked into the backyard of his home of 42 years, sat in a lawn chair, and used a .357 magnum revolver to end his life.

He played virtually no role in raising me; at my parents request, his parents became my legal guardians when I was six years old, and prior to that, I spent most of my time at their house anyway.

His parents had only a single child, and my parents had only a single child.

I lived in my dad's house for five years in the 1980s while attending university, but working a full time job and taking 50% more classes than a full load meant I was almost never home and awake at the same time. Since then, except for some long pauses, we've communicated mostly via e-mail, with fewer than half a dozen phone calls.

His first wife, my mother, left him in the mid 1970s and he re-married a year later. His 2nd wife, Jane, had even less connection to me.

My grandparents were excellent guardians and parents, and I was nurtured and well cared for.

Jane died a few years ago after being married to my dad for 38 years after a prolonged and terrible fight with breast cancer. Nine years prior, she had forbidden him to communicate with me, and he had agreed, so I'd not heard from him in most of a decade.

He contacted me the day after she died via e-mail. Near the end of her life, she had given him the go ahead to resume communications with me after she died.

Born in the mid 1940s, my father would very likely be evaluated as being on the autistic spectrum as things are seen today. Just like his father and his son.

He had an easy charisma, but that was very shallow: he was functionally socially retarded. Besides the small number of women in his life, he had created almost no substantial social bonds.

When we did communicate, we got along quite well, but, in a fairly friendly but irresistible way, he almost sought to 'manage' the conversation, moving it in his own interests and directions. And there was always at least a mild to moderate negative/paranoid tone.

In general, even though the overall communications were cordial and friendly, I didn't really like to engage with him, because I felt a little worse about things after. Not a lot, but a bit.

Anyway, about a year after Jane's death, he met and started building a relationship with another woman, named Rosie. She is about 14 years younger than him. And their relationship blossomed, though with some troubling caveats.

She insisted he tell nobody about her or their relationship, and said she could not tell her family about it, for various seemingly, on the surface, plausible reasons. Of course he told me about it, since I was the only other person in the world he really talked to.

Though she didn't ask for it directly, last year he took most of the value out of his house and bought her a nice condo.

Moving ahead more briefly, she dumped him in February 2019. He was shattered, and rightly felt betrayed. He began to plan his exit at that time, eight months before his birthday.

He and I continued to exchange e-mails, perhaps one per week, and I had no hint or indication of his plans.

As was his style, every detail had been taken care of. He placed a 'packet' on the kitchen table: burial clothes, a note, a legal copies of various legal documents. That morning, he put a large package of all kinds of legal documentation, along with 15 pages of explanation and other important information in the mail, to be delivered to me the next day. He had enumerated where everything of value could be found in the house, which he had almost completely emptied. Included was detailed contact information: mortuary, lawyers, information on the reverse mortgage he had taken out, and detailed hand-written notes explaining all sorts of relevant details.

He setup a 'direct burial', next to Jane, in the Riverside National Cemetery, since he was a veteran. 'direct burial': no service, just straight from coroner to mortuary to the ground.

He and Jane took care of and loved many cats and a couple of dogs over the years, and that work brought them great joy. Rosie insisted that he get rid of all of his pets, and he did so.

The homicide detective I spoke to said that this was the most straightforward case she'd ever seen. His body cleared the Los Angeles County coroners office in a single day, which the mortuary had a hard time believing was possible.

He died as he lived: with meticulous planning and attention to detail.

Here he is, 69 or 70 years of age, a quick photo of his drivers license. Before this photo, the last time I had seen him was in 2004, before he started working out. This picture was striking because I'd never seen him have a 'thin' face.

http://www.realms.org/pics/robert-diederich-drivers-license-...

This event has been challenging for my wife, son and I but not shattering, since none of us had any kind of non-surface relationship with him.

But it has brought into focus a few things.

In summary: building and maintaining multiple personal connections is critically important. My father was in the fullness of health, even in his 70s, working out several hours every morning.

Fundamentally, why did he choose suicide? At this time, I'd say the most proximate cause was the terrible, untimely death of his wife. But that didn't need to be the end. He had never learned how to create and maintain healthy relationships. Why? That's hard to say with any certainty, but (probably) being on the autism spectrum likely played a part.

I'll end this ramble here: the one thing he repeated most often in our communications over the years was the importance of holding my wife and son very close. In truth, their presence has helped bring me through many difficult times over the decades.

Rest in peace, dad.

Robert W. Diederich

October 24th, 1945 - October 24th, 2019

Cheers,

-Dana

PS: Thank you for reading this.

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#78
post #69

Excuse if this is a naive question. How does one go about evaluating one's own mental health?

That's a really great question.

Honestly? If you're asking that question, I'd say that you shouldn't. Instead, you should see a therapist or counselor.

The reason for this is that one of the primary things a good therapist does for you is to teach you how to do that, and what to do with the insights a self-evaluation gives you.

Seeking a therapist is not something that should be limited to people who are in crisis, and is not a commitment to lifelong therapy. Any good therapist will be thrilled to hear that you want to see them to learn how to evaluate and manage your mental health.

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#79

Honestly, pretty awful. I'm fresh out of college, making 155K in my first job, but I feel miserable because I can't sleep in NYC, the love of my life lives across the country and I feel like we're growing apart, and because I work so much I no longer have any hobbies. I grew up poor and now I'm making more money than I ever imagined I could so I feel like I can't complain too much, but as soon as I hit the 1 year mar…

I spent two years of my life in NYC. I hope you already are using earplugs? If not, go down to the drugstore and buy the heaviest decibel rating you can find.

Set some hard boundaries around work. It's a city where people overwork like it's a mark of virtue. Plus, since you're not planning to stay, you don't need to grind yourself to death to climb the corporate hierarchy.

Make time to talk to your SO almost every day. When I lived half a world away, I called each morning during the week since her wakeup time was shortly before my bedtime. From coast to coast is a little more awkward, but finding such a time (afternoon commute for her, after dinner for you or the like) is a powerful ritual.

Re: Ask HN: How is your mental health?

#80
> How and how well do you keep track of your mental health

Mentally. Not very well. This is an area in need of improvement for me. I'm mid-30s and mental health is getting to be pretty important as of late.

> , particularly for those with a history of mental health issues, and those with a family history of mental issues.

TBQH I think that means everyone.

I live in America. In America, mental health takes a backseat to just about everything. Man up and get work done. If you've got a mental issue then feel free to get fired because there's a dozen more people behind you waiting to be employed for just as cheap. If you can't afford to be fired then that's just too bad.

I don't trust insurance companies. Outside of insurance, therapists are expensive as !@#$, particularly if you're poor. You're paying for someone else's time and "time is money, friend."

My employer's insurance has an Employee Assistance Program. I looked at it and... therapy is over the phone??? I would never talk therapy to someone over the phone. First I have a lot of trouble understanding people on the phone. The audio quality is poor to begin with but I genuinely have trouble hearing/understanding/remembering/responding to words people say. There's a ton of body language which is just gone when you're talking on the phone (or VOIP or even webcam). There's a delay between transmission and reception. Then there's also the fact that phones aren't secure. I have trust issues so security is important.

I have literally no idea how to even find a therapist other than asking my employer's insurance company for a list. I don't want to do that. I don't want to tip anyone off to think "oh man @inetknght is a mental case, we'd better fire them" or "@inetknght thinks dark thoughts, we need to put them in a mental cell" which is basically a permanent thing (good luck getting out of a mental cell). I know there are different kinds of therapists and I have no idea how to find the "right" kind nor how to find the right trustworthy kind. I have no idea how to find someone I could trust.

A lot of that is part of growing up poor, nearly destitute. So I've had no direct opportunities to be diagnosed with any sort of mental issues either. Mental health wasn't covered under my parents' insurance (when we had even some health insurance), and was never part of any school program (not that I had much school), and no employer seemed interested in the mental health of employees. Growing up, I'd heard many anecdotes about people who had a mental breakdown and were quickly dismissed from employ so I definitely never mentioned it merely out of fear of "oh is this something we should worry for you, uniquely? then you're fired". Literally nobody even asked about my mental health until after I was 30.

I'm willing to admit that I'm terrified of going to a therapist. Terrified of the therapist thinking I'm a nutcase when all I did is grow up on the internet with a different set of social values than those around me. Terrified that one therapist would think my rights need to be taken away. So I bury my head and don't tackle the problem because there isn't an easy trustworthy discrete door to go into. There's no way I'd trust any business with my mental health. Not insurance, not a silicon valley startup, and not my employer. No way in hell.

I also know that if there's an emergency then I have friends who I trust to help. They're more than I used to have a few years ago; I used to be depressed to the edge of suicide. My friends have helped a lot in fixing that. They're not therapists. They're more support than what others might have, though, and that means a lot to me.

Tracking mental health? That sounds like a good direction. I'm not opposed to an app to do that but I wouldn't put that on my phone. Nor would I put it on my computer. I wouldn't put it anywhere with internet access. Requiring internet access would be a non-starter.

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