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Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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You seem to be confusing small towns for suburban sprawl. Small towns don't have the problems you list: build a massive McMansion on the edge of town you are still walking distance to the other edge of the town. The whole value of your house will be more than a tiny house in San Francisco despite having 10x the floor area and 100x the land. Hiways have been good for rural areas overall, because the few people who liv…

Actually OP is more right than even he knows, because the small towns themselves should never have been built but for massive federal government land subsidies for railroads in the 19th century - huge sections of which were never sustainable even when built, let alone a century later.

Interesting argument, but I'm not sure if it is correct. In the 19th century farms didn't have tractors so they had to be much smaller. Thus there were more farmers, and so more towns were needed to support the farms. The railroad helped things along, but many of them were built without federal land subsidies. The farther east you go the more likely the railroads were built without federal subsidies.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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wut? I'm an engineer. I live on a small farm. If not for this "car culture" I wouldn't have a job. The closest business to my house is a bar about 3 miles away. The next closest is a gas station 7 miles away. There is no "community:" that's a fiction perpetuated by people who live in cities. Maybe there was 100 years ago, but there sure isn't now. You can hate on cars all you want, but there's no denying that they op…

Interesting, most of Europe has much less of a car culture, and engineers seem to get jobs okay.

Go to any rural area in europe and everyone has a car.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Oh yeah that would be great if we could have afforded it. Not everyone lived in a world where they could "get out and enjoy ethnic food" and some having it local and have the ability to make it yourself was the only option. Your comment comes off very condescending.

To you it comes off as condescending. That’s fine. You have no right to not be offended by someone else’s perspective

Which you only superficially bothered to understand on a social media forum that perpetuates shallow explanation and confusion not discourse, and resorted to condemning it versus asking for clarification

I grew up in such a community around people who continue to feel entitled to live in the middle of nowhere and demand society supply them, while voting against m4a and being racist as all hell. I know exactly what the mindset of such folks is.

So perhaps don’t show up at a conversation you’re not ready or willing to have without resorting

And since when is it bad to say I refuse to politically support such a lifestyle by choosing candidates that coddle people that in turn pick candidates that undermine others?

Grow up. Your individual feeling for the situation is missing emotional information and lacks perspective regarding social political norms

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Did you just interpret "I had to drive for an hour each way to buy clothes or decent vegetables" as "I demand ready access to every product and experience there is" and then call the commenter a socialist?

No

Did you just cherry pick part of what they wrote to complain at me? As if the scolding of some rando will appropriately make me reconsider?

I told the commenter their complaining about not having easy access to ethnic food in the middle of nowhere is not an obligation of a society

Basic food and clothes and healthcare sure, I mean most of the those communities on the whole vote for candidates that deprive others of those things though so really maybe they should pull themselves up by their boot straps as they say a bit more anyway?

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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NIMBYism is terrible, and so is whataboutism.

Whataboutism is sometimes a good way to point out rank hypocrisy. I didn't vote for Trump and won't, but I totally understand why he won. He won largely by taking traditionally Democratic counties in the Midwest who are fed up with having their jobs sent to totalitarian countries in one-sided trade deals for the benefit of huge corporations. He also won because people look at the coastal "blue" cities and see unaffor…

In Lafayette (LA), there was a gas station right off I-10 that put up a huge sign after she said that that said “The Deplorables”. That’s when I knew she was in deep shit. That and her “I believe in Science!” line at the DNC and Trump’s “I’ll make every dream you ever dreamed come true” ads. Although even I laughed at the online ones about Hillary and the emails with Pac-Man

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Not OP. It's more like they're willfully choosing to suffer. So in that case, enjoy your misery!

> It's more like they're willfully choosing to suffer. So in that case, enjoy your misery! So, you're going to speculatively stereotype an entire group of people and condemn them based on your own hunch as to their politics and station in life. While you're certainly entitled to an opinion, nothing about your entitlement precludes that opinion being a bigoted one. What a bigoted existence. > Yea I am stereotyping peo…

Read about Cairo sometime.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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post #83

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> I doubt you can name a single Republican politician who has run and been elected on this platform. A whole lot of Republican politicians since around 2000 (including George W. Bush) have run for and been elected to federal office on an overt platform of dismantling both the revenue and benefit payment sides of Social Security. Sure, the soundbite has been “saving social security”, but the concrete policy of dismant…

So, can you name a single Republican politician or not? I'm still waiting for a name and a winning campaign from this century.

Paul Ryan.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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The mom-and-pop stores cannot reasonably compete with Walmart or any other chain store. Their suppliers charge more because they lack the volume for the discounts the big stores charge, they lack the skills/manpower/IT to purchase, stock and maintain the thousands of products in a big store, and last but not least mom-and-pop stores don't get the massive tax breaks and other incentives/bribes that the state provides…

Can't such stores get together and create a co-op with a set of stores in the same county/state or even country in order to get reliable supplies and better rates?

Yep. I worked IT for a small business co-op for a short while, and it had over a thousand businesses in it. They had increased their purchasing power by banding together, and were able to negotiate with wholesalers.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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post #83

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> I doubt you can name a single Republican politician who has run and been elected on this platform. A whole lot of Republican politicians since around 2000 (including George W. Bush) have run for and been elected to federal office on an overt platform of dismantling both the revenue and benefit payment sides of Social Security. Sure, the soundbite has been “saving social security”, but the concrete policy of dismant…

So, can you name a single Republican politician or not? I'm still waiting for a name and a winning campaign from this century.

> So, can you name a single Republican politician or not?

I did, though there are more.

> I'm still waiting for a name and a winning campaign from this century.

Nice moving goalpost, but George W. Bush’s 2004 campaign (where social security privatization was a central theme) still counts.

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