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Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Walmart and the like killed local competition. There’s a gas station I stop at from time to time in the country with a Walmart next door. It’s insanely busy. I have family in the country and they accept having to drive to get decent groceries. There are seasonal vegetable and fruit stands but you couldn’t get everything you need. A local ranch sells beef but it would be quite expensive to buy year around unless you w…

people opposed to "socialism" always say they don't want to queue for bread. it looks like these folks don't even have a queue

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Walmart and the like killed local competition. There’s a gas station I stop at from time to time in the country with a Walmart next door. It’s insanely busy. I have family in the country and they accept having to drive to get decent groceries. There are seasonal vegetable and fruit stands but you couldn’t get everything you need. A local ranch sells beef but it would be quite expensive to buy year around unless you w…

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They’ve made their bed and have to lie in it. You reap what you sow mieseratte.

If you’re against having a local grocery because it’s called a co-op then I don’t feel bad at all. As the article said, farmers invented co-ops but somehow that’s been lost because of political lines.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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The article talks about Illinois as an example, but their main agricultural focus is corn and soybean production, which mostly becomes animal feed. It doesn’t surprise me that it would be hard to buy actual food in a place like that.

It also mentions greens & beef being agricultural output. They then mention a Florida town with the same issue.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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I kinda felt like this was an article that had a missing Character, like covering the 2016 election but not mentioning Bernie or Comey.

The reality is that Walmart's Chinese-sourced non-food goods (including clothing, auto parts, and general household supplies) were priced 50+% cheaper than many non-food (and higher profit) items one could get from a grocery store, once you're at Walmart then, well you're at Walmart. This, combined with the insane Dollar General growth mentioned likely is why many of the local stores died. I always kinda felt that this kind of marketing positions sometimes actually harm the market, kinda like how Amazon's $50 android tablets trashed the non-iPad market by taking all wind out of their sails.

Also, for those not familiar, dollar General is not a dollar store as its name implies. They sell cheaper, lower quality items at a markup vs department stores but their secret weapon is incredible organization efficiency with cookie cutter free standing stores that are made simply using cinderblock construction and templated layouts. Their turn around after starting construction to store opening is less than two months at a very low cost in strategically placed places that lack close grocery/department stores. If you made a heat map of all the grocers and department stores in a rural area in the northeast with red for 'near grocery store' and green for 'not near', the dollar general onslaught would almost exactly be an inverse map, identifying low income areas. This is even true in suburban areas where driving is required to get to a grocery store, with dollar general's popping up in the projects.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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The article talks about Illinois as an example, but their main agricultural focus is corn and soybean production, which mostly becomes animal feed. It doesn’t surprise me that it would be hard to buy actual food in a place like that.

I can only see the first two paragraphs, but it is apparently about Winchester Illinois which is in Scott County. According to Wikipedia, it now has a smaller population than when the county was created just prior to 1840.

Less than 5000 people are supporting the costs of administering an entire county. It should be merged back into Morgan County, which appears to have a stable population at least.

A lot of places in Illinois are heavily burdened by the sheer number of governmental units that they pay taxes to support. Consolidation would dramatically improve the situation and help bring a more vibrant economy that can support things like grocery stores.

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Not OP. It's more like they're willfully choosing to suffer. So in that case, enjoy your misery!

> It's more like they're willfully choosing to suffer. So in that case, enjoy your misery!

So, you're going to speculatively stereotype an entire group of people and condemn them based on your own hunch as to their politics and station in life.

While you're certainly entitled to an opinion, nothing about your entitlement precludes that opinion being a bigoted one.

What a bigoted existence.

> Yea I am stereotyping people based on my personal experience and what the author echos in the article. I’m in the Deep South and the article spoke about Illinois. Pretty far away but also the same mindsets.

Ah yes, the classically conservative Illinois which shares so much in common with the Deep South.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Red states that vote the most against social programs are the biggest beneficiaries. It's the leech screaming "Leech!" in the mirror

> Red states that vote the most against social programs are the biggest beneficiaries. It's the leech screaming "Leech!" in the mirror

You're assuming in a "Red State," all those using social programs are the same ones screaming "Socialism!"

This entire premise is based on your stereotype of one's politics.

Perhaps you need to step back and re-examine your assertion.

> Or based on what the politicians elected by those states say and then vote for. "Vote the most against"...

You're stereotyping entire states and condemning the value of the people therein based on your ghostly spector of a Red State politician.

Yours is a stereotyped, bigoted position.

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Stores like Walmart and Dollar stores opened up, and consumer made the choice to shop there rather than at local grocery stores.

Sounds like they are getting exactly what they wanted?

Reminds me of folks in SF who bemoan the loss of a local butcher store. Sure, they may like buying organic cuts of meat at $15/lb, but it's obviously most people don't, that's why those stores went out of business.

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Walmart and the like killed local competition. There’s a gas station I stop at from time to time in the country with a Walmart next door. It’s insanely busy. I have family in the country and they accept having to drive to get decent groceries. There are seasonal vegetable and fruit stands but you couldn’t get everything you need. A local ranch sells beef but it would be quite expensive to buy year around unless you w…

> A local ranch sells beef but it would be quite expensive to buy year around unless you want a whole or 1/2 cow.

A 1/2 cow would probably require buying a new freezer, but splitting a 1/2 cow is quite common. (splitting a half gets you a better mix than buying a quarter)

Re: Farm country feeds America, but try buying groceries there

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP. It's more like they're willfully choosing to suffer. So in that case, enjoy your misery!

> It's more like they're willfully choosing to suffer. So in that case, enjoy your misery! So, you're going to speculatively stereotype an entire group of people and condemn them based on your own hunch as to their politics and station in life. While you're certainly entitled to an opinion, nothing about your entitlement precludes that opinion being a bigoted one. What a bigoted existence. > Yea I am stereotyping peo…

Yea I am stereotyping people based on my personal experience and what the author echos in the article. I’m in the Deep South and the article spoke about Illinois. Pretty far away but also the same mindsets.

There’s nothing bigoted about it. Every one has an opinion, call it what you want. I don’t feel superior compared to them.

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