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Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by joecot »

lostintangent wrote: post #71
joecot wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there documentation somewhere for the self-hosted environment option, which according to the product landing page and pricing page is no cost? I'm guessing the flow there is to use VSCode through the online site, but give ssh credentials to one of your servers that's running the Remote SSH VSCode environment. But once I go to Create an Environment, there's no option for a self-hosted one.

Yep! Check out this doc and let us know if you have any questions/feedback: https://aka.ms/vso-docs/vscode/self-hosted .

OK, I got this working for my Desktop VSCode environment and that works great. But I'm guessing this wasn't tested in combination with the SSH Remote extension?

I can register my local VSCode just fine. When I connect to a remote ssh connection, and try to register that environment, I get a prompt telling me "Failed to register local environment: Install the Azure Account extension". When I look up that extension, I can install it in the SSH environment, but I get the same error still.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by glances »

aphistic wrote: post #92
lostintangent wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep! Check out this doc and let us know if you have any questions/feedback: https://aka.ms/vso-docs/vscode/self-hosted .

I looked at that page and I just wanted to clarify something for myself. Does this mean you can't do a headless server since you need VS Code and some plugins? I like the idea and it would definitely be a strong argument to go back to VS Code but I was hoping I could just run some kind of server on a terminal-only VM.

From this on the github page: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/vsonline/issues/41

"Presently, running the "Register" command via a full instance of VS Code is the only supported flow, but the scenario you described of hosting a server without a GUI is on the product roadmap."

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by Havoc »

arkitaip wrote: post #21
OutsmartDan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine you are in a cave, for no apparent reason, and your computer is no where to be found. The only computer there is a n old school terminal that is somehow running IE11. Your colleague commits something with tabs instead of spaces and you get the notification on your phone. Now you can easily login to VSCode online to re-indent everything with spaces, commit and push it back up, all through your web browser.

Obviously the way to Captain Kirk yourself out of this Kobayashi Maru situation would be to use the ancient terminal to bash your head in.

I seem to recall that one ending differently. But I guess since we're mixing & matching...fair play

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by Havoc »

meddlin wrote: post #22
bouke wrote: post #2

What is the use case for a hosted Visual Studio Code?

Perhaps this makes development on Chromebooks (or similar devices) "more possible". I'm struggling to think of something else though. It sure feels like forward thinking.

Had a look at a chromebook for dev recently. I wanted to be enthusiastic....but 1366 x 768 and eMMC storage. I just can't.

(Got a 2nd hand 2016 zenbook instead - wohoo 3200 x 1800 res)

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by AlexeyBrin »

DoubleFree wrote: post #95
AlexeyBrin wrote: post #36

It would be great if there would be a free tier for people that want to learn C++ with VS. Something that lets you use VS online for small C++ programs (similar with Compiler Explorer but with support for running the generated binary) to build and run these small programs.

Compiler explorer actually supports running the binary now!

I know but only for GCC and Clang, not for MSVC.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by aphistic »

glances wrote: post #102
aphistic wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked at that page and I just wanted to clarify something for myself. Does this mean you can't do a headless server since you need VS Code and some plugins? I like the idea and it would definitely be a strong argument to go back to VS Code but I was hoping I could just run some kind of server on a terminal-only VM.

From this on the github page: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/vsonline/issues/41 "Presently, running the "Register" command via a full instance of VS Code is the only supported flow, but the scenario you described of hosting a server without a GUI is on the product roadmap."

Oh, great! Thank you!

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by jagannathtech »

greggyb wrote: post #93
gameswithgo wrote: post #79

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This is from the company that came up with .NET to describe an intermediate bytecode and runtime. Then later made a new thing called .NET Core which was the same as .NET Framework but more multi platform. Which was confusing so they came up with .NET Standard which was an interface describing compatibility between the other two .NETs They have their top people working on the .NET jit and compiler, and the VS Code edi…

My favorite is their cloud platform, Azure, named after the color of a clear blue sky.

Haha this is funny.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by 0xakhil »

tluyben2 wrote: post #68
kkarakk wrote: post #59

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When you spend 1000s of dollars to get the dev experience we had at the dawn of the age of computing lol

Yes :) Isn't modern computing excellent? One quite significant difference though; portability. Also not quite $1000s; $800 for the ipad (and a $400 one would do fine) and $20/mo for the mac. Beats a mbp most of the time in a modern 4g/wifi environment. Ofcourse there are many caveats; embedded programming, game programming, mobile app testing etc. But I still do about 60-70% (depending) on it; it's great for building…

I think embedded programming would be possible once web browsers start supporting USB devices.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by tumetab1 »

lostintangent wrote: post #29
tumetab1 wrote: post #14

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A clean online, and shared, environment seems like a better way to do PR reviews with the author than doing a Live Share. Does the platform support that? Or wants to? What I would like to stop a comment thread and jump to online-video-session to review some code. Live Share works but requires a stable environment by one of the parties which might be troublesome with some code.

The same team that builds Visual Studio Online also builds Live Share, and so we care very deeply about collaboration. That said, you can spin up a new environment for a PR and then start a Live Share session from there. This allows others on the team to jump in, and leave comments, entirely asynchronously, and without requiring a specific “host” to be online. We have a lot more to do in order to make this scenario t…

I think that matches perfectly what I have imagined. async and sync work support for PR reviews.

a) People not currently working on a repo (don't have a local build environment setup) and do tweaks and suggest improvements (e.g. add a unit test to prove make a bug clear) in a async way.

b) A tech lead/senior developer can request the author to join a live session to go explain the whole PR has a bad approach or misses a base guideline on the repo. Not sure on this case how a summary of review session should be added (maybe the PR should have a log of review sessions done).

c) A teach lead takes the PR has an opportunity to ask the whole team to join a review so that he can point out a recurring issues on the repo or to just align ideas on code quality.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Post by orloffm »

Interestingly there is 1 white woman per 9 people of color on that page. Obviously, marketing the tool as accessible is a good thing, but doesn't this negatively resonate with common blue-collar folk as being a buggy half-baked corporate thing developed by H1B Indians? I don't have any negativity against anyone here, but it feels to be a taboo topic which is not touched or discussed, and I'd like to get some perspective on how it is perceived by people.
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