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Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

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Re: Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

#11

I got downvoted for saying it's not proper etiquette to passive-aggressively downvote. I just chalk it up as one of those stupid things you come across every now and then and move on. There's other more important stuff to worry about.

What do you mean by "passive-aggressively" downvoting? Do you mean downvoting for disagreement with a subject? Because I agree: that's a poor use of downvoting.

Re: Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

#12

I got downvoted for saying it's not proper etiquette to passive-aggressively downvote. I just chalk it up as one of those stupid things you come across every now and then and move on. There's other more important stuff to worry about.

i saw that comment you made, agreed it was downvoted spitefully, and upvoted you in compensation.

people are getting way too touchy with the downvoting.

Re: Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

#13
post #3

Do you really care that much about your karma here? Just ignore it, it's just a number. It's not a video game. Obviously, the most interesting, useful comments are often going to be controversial. In cases where people downvote stuff they don't like (which is a proxy for, does not fit my worldview), these comments will not get the most points. This means you shouldn't care too much about points except that they tell…

it's not that simple. to participate effectively here, you need a certain amount of karma. you can't downvote without it. and if you go into negative numbers, you're almost certain to get your account terminated.

Re: Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

#15

I've had my own encounters with the downmod problem (we all have) and I won't repeat them here in the interest of brevity. But here's a suggestion for handling it. Can't tell if it's pie-in-the-sky, so input's encouraged... Most of us make it a habit to abide by the news.YC "guidelines," such as not changing the text of submitted headlines unless it's needed for clarification, and not adding comment signatures. And i…

The community would recognize anonymous feedback like "Trolling" and "Unnecessary personal attack" as reasonable motives for downmodding, and "Bad point" or "Stupid idea" as unreasonable.

Most of my downvotes are on comments which don't fall into any of these categories -- they fall into the category of "not even wrong". In my view, a comment which isn't even logically coherent has no business being here.

Re: Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

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post #6
post #3

Do you really care that much about your karma here? Just ignore it, it's just a number. It's not a video game. Obviously, the most interesting, useful comments are often going to be controversial. In cases where people downvote stuff they don't like (which is a proxy for, does not fit my worldview), these comments will not get the most points. This means you shouldn't care too much about points except that they tell…

Gun to head, yeah, I do care about karma. But I only care insofar as I respect the community who's voting. The problem is that the indiscriminate downvote homogenizes discussion. The consensus opinion rises to the top. This is good when the group is good; bad when the group degrades.

you should care about the reasons behind votes, not the votes themselves.

Re: Ask PG: Are people getting more liberal with their downvotes?

#19
post #5

"If I disagree with someone, I won't vote up. If I really disagree with someone, I'll post a rejoinder comment." I haven't been here very long but I've thought that expressing disagreement isn't the purpose of a downvote at all. Instead, it's meant to indicate that a post detracts from the discussion and probably shouldn't have been posted to begin with. Using downvotes to express disagreement would only result in di…

On occasion, I'll make a posting that's not terribly well thought out, or is flippant or even mean-spirited.

For the most part, I can look at a comment and ask myself if it really adds anything to the conversation. If it doesn't pass that litmus test, then I delete it.

I think that a lot of the downmodding around here is coming from the fact that sometimes people post things in a way that's similar to talking just to hear the sound of your own voice... They aren't applying that filter to ask themselves if they're really adding anything to the conversation.

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