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I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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There is a scene at the beginning of the movie Brazil [1] where a literal bug falls into a tele-type, causes an error that starts a chain reaction that frames the events of the movie. The bug is a metaphor in the movie, just some nice visual story-telling to indicate how errors in automated processes can have unintended consequences. I honestly fear that entire lives will be ruined by AI systems mis-analyzing some da…

Will these systems ever forgive or forget, like humans?

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I think you misunderstand HIPAA. As long as they have a business associate agreement with the pharmacies and serve some vaguely care-adjacent purpose, the pharmacy can share your data with them without your knowledge or consent.

I can't tell if you're being cynical or serious, but if the latter I can't see how this is correct. From "Pharmacy privacy Requirements here [1], I don't think "business associate agreement [with] some vaguely care-adjacent purpose" meets the standards for information-sharing. Rather the information must be being shared as part of specific treatment for a patient (discussing actual care) or payment. [1] https://www.u…

GP comment is being deadly serious and not at all cynical or sarcastic.

HIPAA is a fig leaf. Cardboard covers on clipboards to inconvenience the nurses and receptionists, but a unencumbered infobahn for anyone who touches the money to drive straight through.

For decades, every visit, test, procedure, and medication you've ever had paid for by a health insurer in the US got dumped straight into MIB, where any insurer could look at it. HIPAA functionally changed this not a whit.

Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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But that's not an interpretation of that phrase at all.

It's not up for debate whether or not what I wrote is an interpretation, what might be up for debate is how valid the interpretation is, and even still, you could strike all reference to the phrase from my comment and the point I made would stand.

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Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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I define it the way the dictionary does: dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power in order to advance their own interests over those of others. How would you define it?

the magnitude of it matters. Order a Big Mac - does it look like the ad? Probably not. Drink a Cola, does it feel like your life has turned around, probably not. is advertising dishonest - of course, but we all know that and we learned to deal with it. Is advertising corrupt, I would not say that. Thus for something to be truly corrupt it needs to go beyond a certain level of illegality. There are plenty of small ban…

> the magnitude of it matters.

The cost to consumers of financial corruption runs into the many billions of dollars.

> There are plenty of small banks and credit unions out there thus the point that you cannot open a bank is not quite valid.

I did not say that you couldn't open a bank. I said that if you tried you would see firsthand evidence of the corruption of the system.

The problem is not that the rules are onerous. The problem is that the rules are not applied evenly and transparently.

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I wonder how long it will be, if ever, until we’ll have a self service site for GDPR that shows all holders of data with the ability for the user to retrieve and/or delete their data? It would also be interesting if EU could provide some kind of register with API that all online actors in the EU has to report data collection to. I’m pretty sure regulating systems like these will become standard eventually, as users are more and more aware of the crazy situation.

Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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There is a scene at the beginning of the movie Brazil [1] where a literal bug falls into a tele-type, causes an error that starts a chain reaction that frames the events of the movie. The bug is a metaphor in the movie, just some nice visual story-telling to indicate how errors in automated processes can have unintended consequences. I honestly fear that entire lives will be ruined by AI systems mis-analyzing some da…

We need to stop that future don’t we?

Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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I just tried requesting my information from one of the links provided in the article. As part of the process I had to upload an image of my government-issued ID. After that, I was told to expect an email confirmation link that I would have to click on before they could proceed. That was an hour ago and the email has not yet arrived. I don't really have any reason to suspect that this is a scam, but I can't help but n…

For the record: I finally did receive the confirmation email, two hours after making the initial request.

Did you receive any information yet?

Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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For the record: I finally did receive the confirmation email, two hours after making the initial request.

Did you receive any information yet?

No, but I would not expect that so soon. (A confirmation email, by contrast, generally arrive within minutes. A two-hour delay is very unusual.)

Re: I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score

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I benefit if Youtube shows me advertisements for desk chairs and lathes instead of beauty products and kids toys. Targeted advertisements help me discover new products and product categories, while untargeted advertising just wastes my time. This is in essence no different than companies buying advertising time in specific TV shows with a known audience. Of course the abuses are also plentiful and dangerous. We proba…

The equivalent of buying advertising time in specific TV shows with a known audience is... buying adverts on specific Youtube channels with a known audience. Funnily, a lot of Youtubers now perform advertising of this sort - I'm sure you've seen the VPN ads. This, like TV, doesn't require tracking of individual people who haven't consented to such.

> This, like TV, doesn't require tracking of individual people who haven't consented to such.

That's a stretch. How do you think they determine any information about the "known" audience? Obviously, they do all sorts of research to determine more about the audiences watching certain shows and channels, likely by sifting through social media, show reviews (IMDB, etc), and elsewhere to determine who's watching what shows, then looking into their profiles to determine their interests. Aggregate that data, find what they all have mostly in common, and cater to those interests. It's just a more generalized and difficult process of the same thing, and eventually it's going to become more narrowed and specific to individual targets.

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