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> But Uber is offering a service that by its very nature requires that you expose the service provider to information you may wish to keep private. Uber's ride hailing service, sure. But the same is not true for the scooter and bike services, which have no need for such information.
Huh? They have to know where the scooters and bikes are so they can be collected to be recharged.
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I’ve never heard of a liquor board that required stores to deliver to the government a real time feed of who’s buying what liquor. If such a policy were created, and BevMo announced they refuse to comply, I’d be fully in support of that despite my normal concerns about companies ignoring regulations. It’s not about the general principle here. If Uber’s claim about deanonymization is accurate, this specific policy is…
If you honestly can't see the difference between a liquor store and a company that changed the face of every major cities in the world and how their inhabitants move around in less than 10 years* I don't think anyone can argue against your point. edit: *while using every loopholes, sketchy and sometimes straight up illegal ways to do it and killing someone as a result.
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Is Uber a Retail Store? Does the Store leave their merchandise all over the neighborhood with GPS micro controllers on them? This analogy is absurd. As municipalities get more technically advanced, why shouldn't they have access to the same type of data or where these scooters are? How hard is it to open up an API? This seems to be, how dare citizens impose a cost of doing business in their neighborhoods!
> why shouldn't they have access to the same type of data or where these scooters are? How hard is it to open up an API? They don't have the right to know where I go.
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But Uber is offering a service that by its very nature requires that you expose the service provider to information you may wish to keep private. How is this the service provider's fault? It's not like they're going out of their way to add tracking into something that doesn't require it. Like this is a little nuts, if you buy one of those GPS trackers for your kids you don't get to act shocked when you find out the c…
> But Uber is offering a service that by its very nature requires that you expose the service provider to information you may wish to keep private. Uber's ride hailing service, sure. But the same is not true for the scooter and bike services, which have no need for such information.
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I’ve never heard of a liquor board that required stores to deliver to the government a real time feed of who’s buying what liquor. If such a policy were created, and BevMo announced they refuse to comply, I’d be fully in support of that despite my normal concerns about companies ignoring regulations. It’s not about the general principle here. If Uber’s claim about deanonymization is accurate, this specific policy is…
Your analogy makes no sense. Liquor stores don't physically move around and violate regulations on where they should operate. That is why LA is asking for this information. To regulate them since Uber can't be trusted.
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Is Uber a Retail Store? Does the Store leave their merchandise all over the neighborhood with GPS micro controllers on them? This analogy is absurd. As municipalities get more technically advanced, why shouldn't they have access to the same type of data or where these scooters are? How hard is it to open up an API? This seems to be, how dare citizens impose a cost of doing business in their neighborhoods!
Because a private company having access to GPS data and the government having access to GPS data are two different threat models with different concerns.
This is where citizens need to advocate in their own neighborhoods and get involved and vote if that is what they want.
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If you honestly can't see the difference between a liquor store and a company that changed the face of every major cities in the world and how their inhabitants move around in less than 10 years* I don't think anyone can argue against your point. edit: *while using every loopholes, sketchy and sometimes straight up illegal ways to do it and killing someone as a result.
I'm very comfortable saying alcohol affects the world as much as Uber does. Liquor stores regularly use sketchy loopholes to dodge regulation, and the entire reason they're so tightly regulated is that we believe unrestricted liquor sales will kill people.
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The software doesn't issue you a ticket, so there's nothing to contest. It simple slows the scooter down in the restricted zone. And if the software is wrong, you stop using the system, and move to a vendor that makes it work. Anyway, not claiming this is ideal. Just sounds (without much thought) like a better solution than traffic cops.
Maybe if we're going to go down this route, we should have these systems in our cars, too.
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If you honestly can't see the difference between a liquor store and a company that changed the face of every major cities in the world and how their inhabitants move around in less than 10 years* I don't think anyone can argue against your point. edit: *while using every loopholes, sketchy and sometimes straight up illegal ways to do it and killing someone as a result.
I'm very comfortable saying alcohol affects the world as much as Uber does. Liquor stores regularly use sketchy loopholes to dodge regulation, and the entire reason they're so tightly regulated is that we believe unrestricted liquor sales will kill people.
This is preposterous. Imagine government requiring any business to delivery real time data on customer behavior, from doctors to restaurants, Walmart to dispensaries. The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution is about privacy FROM GOVERNMENT INTRUSION, which is precisely what this is, an intrusive act on the part of government. Why don't they devote their time and effort to actually fixing the crumbling infrastruct…