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Lone Bitcoin Whale Likely Fueled 2017 Price Surge, Study Says

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Re: Lone Bitcoin Whale Likely Fueled 2017 Price Surge, Study Says

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Similarly, I try to add it to all my side-projects that accept payment. I looked at a few payment providers and settled on OpenNode, as they had the right mix of an easy API, quick support and good documentation, though I would like it if they supported more cryptocurrencies. If you want cryptocurrencies to succeed, you need to make them widespread as a form of payment. I already lament Steam and Stripe removing Bitc…

Unfortunately, Bitcoin as designed is technically incapable of being in widespread use for payment, due to a severe lack of network capacity, and a complete lack of interest in ever changing this. Instead, all effort is going into a building a flawed second layer that is theoretically unsound and a usability nightmare.

Eh, there's Stellar, Nano, whatever. There are solutions, the important thing is that cryptocurrencies start having uses other than speculation. It doesn't matter which one is useful as long as one is, and I'd rather use Bitcoin now than use Visa because of a theoretical fear that Bitcoin might not scale to millions of people.

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Unfortunately, Bitcoin as designed is technically incapable of being in widespread use for payment, due to a severe lack of network capacity, and a complete lack of interest in ever changing this. Instead, all effort is going into a building a flawed second layer that is theoretically unsound and a usability nightmare.

That's not an issue at all, for large transactions. The real issue is each payment being a taxable event, due to IRS treating it as property, rather than currency. You literally have to report each payment on schedule D and calculate its cost basis! This burden kills any legal US adoption.

I thought the Bitcoin community were publicly stating that Bitcoin is optimised as a "Store of value" rather than a currency to be used for transactions? Which is it?

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Similarly, I try to add it to all my side-projects that accept payment. I looked at a few payment providers and settled on OpenNode, as they had the right mix of an easy API, quick support and good documentation, though I would like it if they supported more cryptocurrencies. If you want cryptocurrencies to succeed, you need to make them widespread as a form of payment. I already lament Steam and Stripe removing Bitc…

We were one of Stripe’s early Bitcoin integration users. I even got a free T-shirt for finding bugs in their documentation. In the years that it was enabled (until Stripe ended support) we never received a single payment in Bitcoin. There’s a large portion of the population who have no compelling reason to use Bitcoin.

I integrated Stripe early on too, and did get some payments in Bitcoin (out of a few per month total). Eternum.io has had a Bitcoin integration for two weeks and already got two payments in Bitcoin.

I think it depends a lot on the audience.

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You're implying a single exchange moving the market needs cash to move it. If the ecosystem has decided one exchange is the lead price, then they manipulate the price without needing the underlying assets. Furthermore, bitcoin is one of the only markets I've seen which rewards "whales" instead of punishing them, because in most markets moving the market you will lose money to slippage. The market price will retract a…

That's an interesting way to think about it. When you say "no one is trading the fundamentals", is that because of some sort of market flaw? E.g., hard to trade that way? Or because there really are no fundamentals to Bitcoin? By the latter I mean that most tradeable instruments are based in some sort of value external to the trading. Stocks have income streams and assets. Commodities have use value. Currencies have…

Even if we assumed that bitcoin had fundamentals, they wouldn't matter in the end of the day. There is too much fraud and price manipulation in the system, which prevents any chance of market self-regulation.

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Clickbait title. The subtitle is probably more accurate: "The series of $1,000 days that brought BTC to a record above $19,600 could have been the work of one entity" I'm very skeptical. It is certainly possible that a single entity may have encouraged the rally. But there is no way that a single entity actually moved the markets this much. The amount of cash required would be significant. During this time, there wer…

The accusation here is that Tether/Bitfinex colluded with the whale to move the price by printing Tethers that weren't actually backed by a dollar 1:1.

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You can send a stablecoin if you have a problem with volatility. There's even a native one called Dai which is outside the traditional banking system.

And how is it pegged? Someone asked the various exchanges very nicely if they could only trade it for $1?

It's backed by collateral locked in Ethereum smart contracts.

https://makerdao.com/en/whitepaper#overview-of-the-dai-stabl...

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And how is it pegged? Someone asked the various exchanges very nicely if they could only trade it for $1?

It's backed by collateral locked in Ethereum smart contracts. https://makerdao.com/en/whitepaper#overview-of-the-dai-stabl...

That doesn't explain how it's pegged to the dollar.

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That's not an issue at all, for large transactions. The real issue is each payment being a taxable event, due to IRS treating it as property, rather than currency. You literally have to report each payment on schedule D and calculate its cost basis! This burden kills any legal US adoption.

I thought the Bitcoin community were publicly stating that Bitcoin is optimised as a "Store of value" rather than a currency to be used for transactions? Which is it?

It's properties are more in line with a store of value, especially the deflationary aspect, but the line between a store of value and a currency is blurry. Gold also has more properties of a store of value than a currency, and it's used more as a store of value globally, yet some parts of North Africa and the Middle East are using the gold dinar as a currency. It can be both.

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> He could have sent it 'traditionally' but he would have been harassed about why he was sending money abroad and wasted considerable time and effort going to a physical bank branch. Instead in under a minute he sent me some Ethereum and we both were able to confirm the transaction near immediately Have you heard of options like TransferWise or OFX? They offer immediate transfers, lower transaction fees than ETH or B…

> BTC/ETH are 0-sum games, so on average nobody earns a dime of interest I would argue it is actually negative sum as billions of dollars worth is newly minted every year and a lot of that inevitability has to be sold to pay the miners electricity bills. I'm honestly shocked they haven't collapsed due to the never ending supply side pressure requiring billions of dollars worth of capital inflow every year.

That will change on Ethereum when they finish rolling out proof of stake.
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