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Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by giancarlostoro »

PinkMilkshake wrote: post #76
Pxtl wrote: post #59

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Dark times are still happening. Right now they're renaming everything Azure regardless of whether it's part of their cloud offerings. Also, Live was another Microsoft naming phase. For me, the canary in the coal mine of ms naming is their messenger. Msn messenger, live messenger, Skype, Skype for business, Teams... I assume the next iteration will be named Azure Teams.

> Msn messenger, live messenger, Skype, Skype for business, Teams... I assume the next iteration will be named Azure Teams. We have a similar issue in education. First it was MSDN-AA , then DreamSpark , then briefly Microsoft Imagine . Now it's called Microsoft Azure Dev Tools for Teaching .

That last names awful. I remember DreamSpark. I liked the name DreamSpark the most. Azure DreamSpark wouldnt sound as awful.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by nabla9 »

sgentle wrote: post #109

Okay, I think I've got this figured out. Can someone check my working? https://imgur.com/a/GVdsG7r Color key: Green: Apple set-top box Yellow: App for Apple set-top box Orange: App for other Apple devices Red: App for third-party devices Yellow/Orange/Red stripe: App generally across all platforms Violet: Integrated external subscription content Blue: Apple subscription content Violet/Blue stripe: Content generally R…

See also:

Apple TV (disambiguation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV_(disambiguation)

Original programming for Apple TV+ seems to be very good.

First three episodes for the "For All Mankind" (scifi) are good so are the three episodes for "See". The "The Morning Show" seems to be very good although I'm not in the target audience.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by giancarlostoro »

sk5t wrote: post #70
jjtheblunt wrote: post #51

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Or Watson

For sure, although whereas the Websphere-ing of the product line seemed like a plausible effort at consistent branding, Watson feels more like a cynical measure to appear relevant, but nobody's buying it. On the "active" bandwagon, I forgot to mention Active Directory, which is kind of funny given that I spent the better part of a decade specializing in development and projects largely oriented around AD and ADFS, an…

I have a feeling business people eat up Watson. Nobody got fired for buying IBM as they say. I was at a telecoms conference and they did a demo and mentioned the systems could use Watson for speech to text functionality. Someone somewhere is buying into it whether directly or indirectly.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by giancarlostoro »

akandiah wrote: post #143
me551ah wrote: post #102

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Actually, Microsoft's Java existed. Microsoft built their own JVM ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine ) and Java was supported as a language in Visual Studio in the past. It was the fastest Windows-based implementation of a Java virtual machine when it came out. But Microsoft being itself added some custom features on top of JVM ( like IE ) and Sun sued them. In retaliation, Microsoft remov…

They even had a version of Java for .Net called J# (J-Sharp). That didn't last long.

It was for migration purposes if I remember correctly.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by giancarlostoro »

saberience wrote: post #162
code_sloth wrote: post #83

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> .NET Core vs. .NET Standard was a wtf? At least they named it core and standard so you know which mess you're referring to. With Apple TV you have to make up your own qualifiers. Apple's marketing team seems to failing at their jobs right now. They had iPhone had X/Xr/Xs/Xs Max at some point, and I never figure out which was which. The most recent 11/11 pro/11 pro max makes a lot more sense, but it sounds dated.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it a "mess" .Net Core and Standard are two of the best things Microsoft has done in the past 5 years and part of the reason why .Net is doing so well and is super popular.

To be fair just before .NET Standard it was much more confusing. Then by .NET Core 3 (which I kept telling people wait till .NET Core 3 for things to get better since it wasnt till .NET Framework 3 that I saw huge adoption of .NET) it got way better. Also now we are seeing cross platform UI frameworks for .NET as well. I have been wanting to experiment with some of them but I am letting the ecosystem grow and mature a bit more.

.NET Core is the best thing Microsoft did even if it sucks they basically redid .NET Framework. It sucks when companies do that kind of thing but the end result is a much more powerful .NET ecosystem. The confusing bit is old .NET Framework libraries that may or may not work at all with .NET Core.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by thaumasiotes »

bch wrote: post #108
dottrap wrote: post #91

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> "We put the dot in dot-com" - ??? Yes, it's marketing fluff (as with any marketing), but I liked that one. For all you tech people like me that have problems answering to non-techie family members what you do, I thought that was an example of a beautiful succinct answer that still conveyed enough of an idea to be satisfying to laymen. As for one I really hated from Sun: "Java Desktop System", which was just a distr…

Wasn’t that implying their infra running the implicit “.” at the end of “.com” (I know, it’s literally not what the copy says)? I.e. the internet .com resolving depended on Sun.[0][1] [0] https://serverfault.com/questions/134611/why-no-final-dot-fo... [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server

I like the idea that their slogan was really "we put the second dot in dot-com-dot".

"You know, the one you've never heard of."

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by matwood »

nabla9 wrote: post #172
sgentle wrote: post #109

Okay, I think I've got this figured out. Can someone check my working? https://imgur.com/a/GVdsG7r Color key: Green: Apple set-top box Yellow: App for Apple set-top box Orange: App for other Apple devices Red: App for third-party devices Yellow/Orange/Red stripe: App generally across all platforms Violet: Integrated external subscription content Blue: Apple subscription content Violet/Blue stripe: Content generally R…

See also: Apple TV (disambiguation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV_(disambiguation) Original programming for Apple TV+ seems to be very good. First three episodes for the "For All Mankind" (scifi) are good so are the three episodes for "See". The "The Morning Show" seems to be very good although I'm not in the target audience.

> First three episodes for the "For All Mankind" (scifi) are good so are the three episodes for "See". The "The Morning Show" seems to be very good although I'm not in the target audience.

Which is funny because many critics/reviewers have panned all the new shows. I've only watched TMS so far and found it intriguing.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by Pxtl »

sebazzz wrote: post #129
Pxtl wrote: post #59

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Dark times are still happening. Right now they're renaming everything Azure regardless of whether it's part of their cloud offerings. Also, Live was another Microsoft naming phase. For me, the canary in the coal mine of ms naming is their messenger. Msn messenger, live messenger, Skype, Skype for business, Teams... I assume the next iteration will be named Azure Teams.

Like Azure DevOps, hostable on-premises.

That and Azure data studio were what I was thinking of.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by yoz-y »

deelly wrote: post #159
yoz-y wrote: post #154

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What is the point of separating the macOS, iOS and tvOS apps into three? I think it unnecessarily complicates the thing. They are all mostly the same and only differ by the content they can play, which depends on third party support. Case in point: once you have defined the three terms, you only use the striped one except at the very end to highlight one difference, which only depends on hardware.

> They are all mostly the same and only differ by the content they can play.. But content is a main idea of Apple TV?

It is, but if you define the Apple TV app as a sink that aggregates all content available on your platform, then it makes sense that it is different on each one. Since the way the app works is that it bounces you to the source.

To me there is the device, the app and the streaming service. The Channels is just a feature of the app. I agree that the naming is not ideal, but that is on par for course with Apple nowadays.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by bovermyer »

matwood wrote: post #177
nabla9 wrote: post #172

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See also: Apple TV (disambiguation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV_(disambiguation) Original programming for Apple TV+ seems to be very good. First three episodes for the "For All Mankind" (scifi) are good so are the three episodes for "See". The "The Morning Show" seems to be very good although I'm not in the target audience.

> First three episodes for the "For All Mankind" (scifi) are good so are the three episodes for "See". The "The Morning Show" seems to be very good although I'm not in the target audience. Which is funny because many critics/reviewers have panned all the new shows. I've only watched TMS so far and found it intriguing.

Critics/reviewers never have the same opinion I do. Not even close. I've learned to ignore them completely.
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