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Are you in USA? Should other countries refuse to employ USA citizens because of actions of the government - things like pulling out of Syria to enable the Turkish murder of the Kurds to continue. >China has been using our money ... The best way is to vote with your money then?
This is done in China BTW.
Imagine if the issue was the following:
> In e-group on Monday October 15, 2019 we took the decision to enable a "job family race and sexual orientation block" for team members who have access to customer data. This is at the expressed concern of several enterprise customers, and also what is becoming a common practice in our industry in the current social climate.
> The groups of people involved are:
> - Black people
> - Gay people
> This issue is to track the addition of the process to the support handbook, and whatever recruiting processes need to be update to make certain that:
> We do not make offers to individuals of these races or who practice these sexual deviances. Current team members are prevented from entering a relationship with someone of the same sex or of the specified races and remaining in a role that prohibits it.
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> totally excluding China from any and all international trade I don't have an opinion whether this is the right thing to do or not. But regardless of my opinion, how does not hiring chinese citizens help with that? This just sounds like harassing chinese people because of their government. If you really wanted to change something, hiring chinese people and showing them what the western world is like would be the bes…
The Western world has tried this and ended up with Chinese students harrassing and intimidating pro-Hongkong protestors. This path has failed.
It's immoral to discriminate on the basis of fear, prejudice, and rumor. One client can demand that Gitlab get rid of Chinese and Russian nationals today. Tomorrow, a different client can make similar demands - aimed at the nationals of different countries. This makes no sense whatsoever, and will blow out of control quickly. Sanction programs are the established legal frameworks for such things: https://www.treasury…
As a founder of a tech company based in China, I benefit from US companies blocking Chinese (and Russian) engineers; still I am saddened by this. I hope they could come up with more intelligent policies to protect their OPSEC.
> In e-group on Monday October 15, 2019 we took the decision to enable a "job family country-of-residence block" for team members who have access to customer data.
I don't think there's a need to explain what's wrong with this idea, there are a lot of sane comments on this thread explaining this just okay.
On a side note, I really like how company transparency saves them from making wrong decisions final. I think that this initiative will be dropped just like the recent third-party tracking issue, and I wish more companies were as transparent as this one.
I'm shocked (in a positive way) about the amount of transparency Gitlab provides. Even as a reader, it almost feels as if someone misconfigured the ACLs or I'm reading leaked internal documents, not an intentional decision to make this open. Some of the discussions seem highly sensitive, and yet it seems to work for them. Thank you, Gitlab, for being so open! I've learned a lot about compliance from just reading this…
Wait, am I to understand that this law says I cannot boycott doing business with businesses located in Israel? I am in the US, so can not say, "I disagree with how the Israeli government is treating Palestine and thus don't want to do business with any entity located there."?
I would note my understanding is that fines for non-compliance have historically been relatively light and therefore, to my knowledge, these regulations have not been seriously tested in court in recent times. (And the article I read suggested there was a causal link between those two facts.)
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I've been told (at a different company based in a different country) "don't bring your work laptop to China, don't bring materials to China without authorization, we'll provide what is effectively a burner device for whatever you are bringing to China (I believe they re-used them as different employees went to China)". I imagine Gitlab would have a similar but less restrictive policy, "don't bring a work laptop to Ch…
Consider this scenario: Loyal and long time high performing Gitlab employee Bob, is happily married to Su, who originally hails from China. They live and work in the US. All good. Until Su's ageing parents back home succumb to ill health and she decides that the family need to move back to China to care for them for maybe one or two years - perhaps longer. Bob then has to make the choice between (a) resigning his job…
You forgot D that gitlab is actively discussing which is a role change while staying with the company.
Deleting everything I have on gitlab and leaving this racist platform
If I was a Chinese or a Russian engineer working for Gitlab, I'd consider quitting right now regardless of how this discussion ends. I am surprised that this initiative is not just considered by them, but basically approved by some of the senior staff: > In e-group on Monday October 15, 2019 we took the decision to enable a "job family country-of-residence block" for team members who have access to customer data. I d…
This is partially the goal of such moves and will accelerate the rise of discrimination. Thus, one should not quit despite the situation.