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Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by jjtheblunt »

sk5t wrote: post #44
andrewstuart wrote: post #21

Remember when .NET came out? Everything was .NET. As a result, no-one really had any idea what .NET actually was. Eventually we figured out it was "Microsoft's Java". Windows also went through a phase in which seemingly everything was Windows.

Microsoft has gone through some pretty dark times w.r.t. naming stuff. Up there with "Windows" everything and absurdities like ".net Passport" was their unslakable thirst for "Active." ActiveX, Active Server Pages, Active Data Objects. However, none of it holds a candle to IBM's mania for making everything "Websphere."

Or Watson

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by jfroma »

I find naming and details as confusing with Amazon Prime, Amazon Video and FireTV.

Maybe it is not as problematic when you are in the US, but in my country Amazon Prime works in all devices (android, ios, pc, etc) except in the FireTV, other services like netflix, spotify and youtube works very well on FireTV. Note that this is clearly stated in the documentation and faqs, it is a product targeted to a few countries only.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by [deleted] »

sk5t wrote: post #44
andrewstuart wrote: post #21

Remember when .NET came out? Everything was .NET. As a result, no-one really had any idea what .NET actually was. Eventually we figured out it was "Microsoft's Java". Windows also went through a phase in which seemingly everything was Windows.

Microsoft has gone through some pretty dark times w.r.t. naming stuff. Up there with "Windows" everything and absurdities like ".net Passport" was their unslakable thirst for "Active." ActiveX, Active Server Pages, Active Data Objects. However, none of it holds a candle to IBM's mania for making everything "Websphere."

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Post by Scapeghost »

andrewstuart wrote: post #21

Remember when .NET came out? Everything was .NET. As a result, no-one really had any idea what .NET actually was. Eventually we figured out it was "Microsoft's Java". Windows also went through a phase in which seemingly everything was Windows.

How about the New Nintendo 3DS XL or Xbox One, now with 30% more confusion in conversations.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by [deleted] »

Scapeghost wrote: post #55
andrewstuart wrote: post #21

Remember when .NET came out? Everything was .NET. As a result, no-one really had any idea what .NET actually was. Eventually we figured out it was "Microsoft's Java". Windows also went through a phase in which seemingly everything was Windows.

How about the New Nintendo 3DS XL or Xbox One, now with 30% more confusion in conversations.

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Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by Someone1234 »

mc3 wrote: post #35
andrewstuart wrote: post #21

Remember when .NET came out? Everything was .NET. As a result, no-one really had any idea what .NET actually was. Eventually we figured out it was "Microsoft's Java". Windows also went through a phase in which seemingly everything was Windows.

That's not even the best example. .NET Core vs. .NET Standard was a wtf?

That's not really an example of what they're bringing up.

Microsoft has the .Net ecosystem (as the above poster described it "Microsoft's Java," which it largely is). However for a period Microsoft was naming other products and services ".Net" that were completely unrelated. Specifically this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_.NET_strategy

Both .Net Core and .Net Standard are part of the .Net ecosystem for real, making them not an example of the marketing phenomenon being discussed here. Which isn't to say the names aren't confusing, just that it isn't in the same pattern.

PS - .Net Framework: Legacy/Classic .Net. Windows Only. Started in 2002. 4.8 is the final major version.

.Net Core: Light weight/cross platform "reboot" of .Net Framework. Started in 2016.

.Net Standard: Minimum subset of both that allows libraries to be cross-compatible with .Net Framework and .Net Core. Also assures they lack Windows specific dependencies. Allowing a bridge to migrate to .Net Core.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Post by Pxtl »

sk5t wrote: post #44
andrewstuart wrote: post #21

Remember when .NET came out? Everything was .NET. As a result, no-one really had any idea what .NET actually was. Eventually we figured out it was "Microsoft's Java". Windows also went through a phase in which seemingly everything was Windows.

Microsoft has gone through some pretty dark times w.r.t. naming stuff. Up there with "Windows" everything and absurdities like ".net Passport" was their unslakable thirst for "Active." ActiveX, Active Server Pages, Active Data Objects. However, none of it holds a candle to IBM's mania for making everything "Websphere."

Dark times are still happening. Right now they're renaming everything Azure regardless of whether it's part of their cloud offerings.

Also, Live was another Microsoft naming phase.

For me, the canary in the coal mine of ms naming is their messenger. Msn messenger, live messenger, Skype, Skype for business, Teams... I assume the next iteration will be named Azure Teams.

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