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Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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> Since Elizabeth Warren shared in a campaign video on October 9 that after becoming pregnant in 1971, she was pushed out of a teaching position—many women have spoken out on social media saying they’ve been denied promotions, fired, and retaliated against for their pregnancies.

I’m sure most of those stories are true. Elizabeth Warren’s, however, was a lie.[1]

[1] https://freebeacon.com/politics/county-records-contradict-wa...

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #56

>> “Eight weeks of paid leave includes up to two weeks prior to the birth and assumes a normal vaginal delivery,” an HR representative said write to Jennifer I bet if most companies simply got rid of the HR departments altogether, not only would inhumane and repulsive policies like the above not exist, I bet most employees would be happier and more productive.

I think this is naive. The HR department is simply the mouthpiece for the policies that the company’s management wants.

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the company's standpoint, any employee that quits is simply a cash giveaway and a huge loss.

Especially when they had been giving cash in return for nothing. The cash giveaway is in the paid leave part, not in the quitting part.

Yeah, what next, keep paying people even though they are in the hospital sick, and call it "sick leave"? That's just giving people cash in return for nothing. Why are they trying to give us a communist dictatorship?

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #7

> Some companies have policies that can discriminate against people who are on protected leaves by denying them commissions they have already earned Wtf? How can that possibly be a thing?

Do these people just sit around and spend time coming up with ways to screw others over? How the fuck is this thing even legal, let alone ethical? Makes me so mad

How is it not a thing ? Yes and if I can get away with it, I would gladly do the same. A company goal is to make money.

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #56

>> “Eight weeks of paid leave includes up to two weeks prior to the birth and assumes a normal vaginal delivery,” an HR representative said write to Jennifer I bet if most companies simply got rid of the HR departments altogether, not only would inhumane and repulsive policies like the above not exist, I bet most employees would be happier and more productive.

I've had good and bad experiences with HR. If you have good HR and a bad manager, you can rely on HR in times of family crisis (and if the manager punishes you, you'll probably have support to relocate within the company; rolling the dice but at least you've still got HR). If you have bad HR and a good manager, you rely on the manager. If both are bad, it's probably best to find new employment.

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #56

>> “Eight weeks of paid leave includes up to two weeks prior to the birth and assumes a normal vaginal delivery,” an HR representative said write to Jennifer I bet if most companies simply got rid of the HR departments altogether, not only would inhumane and repulsive policies like the above not exist, I bet most employees would be happier and more productive.

I think this is naive. The HR department is simply the mouthpiece for the policies that the company’s management wants.

Depends on the company. I've worked for companies where horrid HR people recommended horrid policies to upper management.

It was their way of making themselves feel important, and most of the staff feared the upper HR people.

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While no doubt someone will never fully emotionally get over something so tragic, sometimes the best thing for you is to get back on the horse and your work and your life and move on.

Having bereavement leave does not preclude returning to work. It precludes being forced to return to work when one cannot.

I'm not arguing against bereavement leave. I'm making the very real point that moving on is a choice and that 8 weeks or 80 weeks isn't going to make a difference. At some point you have to move on and going back to work is one of the best things to get your mind off of it. But this is really pedantic so that's all I say to this point.

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #48

I think this is a bad way to deal with such people. She needs to make name of the company known, and was the person who made this decision. The internet will do the rest.

That is the first line in the article “In early 2017, Jennifer, a sales engineer at Informatica, a top Silicon Valley data management company”

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #61

> Since Elizabeth Warren shared in a campaign video on October 9 that after becoming pregnant in 1971, she was pushed out of a teaching position—many women have spoken out on social media saying they’ve been denied promotions, fired, and retaliated against for their pregnancies. I’m sure most of those stories are true. Elizabeth Warren’s, however, was a lie.[1] [1] https://freebeacon.com/politics/county-records-contr…

A careful reading of that link does not support "a lie".

Or another:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/oct/09...

It certainly is easy enough to generate a reason acceptable to external monitors to get rid of a person. I have done this myself, and would do it again. In fact I don't think I've ever worked anywhere over the last 40 years where this is not the default approach. CYA is a thing, and always will be.

Re: Engineer Says Software Firm Cut Her Maternity Leave Short After Her Baby Died

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post #61

> Since Elizabeth Warren shared in a campaign video on October 9 that after becoming pregnant in 1971, she was pushed out of a teaching position—many women have spoken out on social media saying they’ve been denied promotions, fired, and retaliated against for their pregnancies. I’m sure most of those stories are true. Elizabeth Warren’s, however, was a lie.[1] [1] https://freebeacon.com/politics/county-records-contr…

My understanding is it was very common for teachers to be fired/contracts not renewed as soon as they announced they were pregnant. Not sure why you think a link to a site like freebeacon backs you up.

I understand that people might not like her policies, but this stuff is clearly targeted swift boating. It doesn’t add to to the discussion.

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