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Re: The making of Jim Simons

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I wonder if anyone has insight into how they have been able to do this consistently in the modern era of quantitative trading (this article had scant detail)? His returns are such an outlier and strategies such a closely guarded secret that they leave people on Wall Street in awe.

To my knowledge, all he has ever said on the subject is: "I think people would be quite surprised if they knew how simple our methods are". You probably won't ever hear more information than that, until their strategies stop working.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what timescale though? There are huge differences between the timescales of "realtime" (say HFT), a second later, a minute later, an hour later, a week later and so on. Do they operate at all of them? I have no specialist knowledge, btw, I'd sincerely like to know!

From what I recall, their approach is mostly what you might call "special situations." That is, their analysis looks for significantly incorrectly priced items, and purchases/shorts them. The Medallion Fund is kept fairly small so it can capture these items without changing their prices substantially. That is, the fund owners have to take their 40% return each year out of the fund.

>That is, the fund owners have to take their 40% return each year out of the fund.

The Medallion is for the employees money. That reminds about salary payment schema in Russian banks in 199x (don't know for today) - employees got to open very special, employees only, accounts paying extremely high, many times beyond the market, interest. The bank account interest got beneficial taxation for the employees, and the bank didn't have to pay various taxes, like social security, etc., which an employer would normally pay on salary. Of course how much an employee could put into such an account had a limit specific for a given employee, and thus the employee did have to regularly take the money out of the account.

Re: The making of Jim Simons

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Does any billionaire get better press than Simons? Meanwhile, there was a senate hearing and report about his tax fraud. Rentech was basically an unregulated market maker. How often does the senate hold a hearing on a billionaires massive tax fraud? And yet not a squeak about it in the press. https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/he...

"Not a squeak?" Do a basic Google search. It was widely reported in the financial press at the time, especially by Bloomberg.

And as far as billionaires go, I don't even think Simons gets enough press to really make a distinction on whether or not it's overly positive. Someone else mentioned Gates, which is I think apt. He has cultivated a savior mythos in the press in which he eradicates diseases using his fortune.

Even if you include everything the Simons Foundation does for disease and health research, it's just a drop in the bucket compared to how much positive spin lots of other billionaires get. Off the top of my head, I think even David E. Shaw gets more spotlight than Simons through DESRES and his whole "spurned academic turned superstar" schtick.

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I wonder if anyone has insight into how they have been able to do this consistently in the modern era of quantitative trading (this article had scant detail)? His returns are such an outlier and strategies such a closely guarded secret that they leave people on Wall Street in awe.

It is also impressive how many people there have intelligence agencies connections. And Medallion , their employees fund, underpaying 7B of taxes by misrepresenting short term as long term gains is very impressive too.

That's right. A lot of people are aware that RenTech scoops up talent from math and theoretical CS departments. But it's less well known that many of Simons' old colleagues from the NSA also contribute math and CS talent by referring them to Simons.

Of the people I know who work at (or used to work at) RenTech, one actually joined after working at the NSA. His PhD thesis was a joint collaboration between Harvard's physics department and the NSA.

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I wonder if anyone has insight into how they have been able to do this consistently in the modern era of quantitative trading (this article had scant detail)? His returns are such an outlier and strategies such a closely guarded secret that they leave people on Wall Street in awe.

They built a system where any data set can be pushed in, joined with the rest of the data, and then automatically made inferences off of for trading.

This isn't really correct.

Renaissance has always put massive personnel and technology investment into its data processing and analysis pipeline. But there is no "automatic inference" generation. It's not so much brute forcing alpha as it is streamlining the process of hypothesis testing for research scientists so that strategies can be very rapidly generated and examined.

Automatic inferences would be susceptible to two major risks. First, you'd run into spurious correlations at the dimensionality of data we're talking about. Those spurious signals would have to be pruned, significantly reducing any advantage.

Second, you'd decouple the strategy generation from financial domain expertise. The strategies are not developed in a vacuum - contrary to popular belief, quant trading firms do apply financial acumen.

Re: The making of Jim Simons

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Does any billionaire get better press than Simons? Meanwhile, there was a senate hearing and report about his tax fraud. Rentech was basically an unregulated market maker. How often does the senate hold a hearing on a billionaires massive tax fraud? And yet not a squeak about it in the press. https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/he...

Bill Gates? Haven't read an even slightly negative article about him in more than a decade.

B/c for the past decade he’s been eradicating malaria and being a legit hero. Not a whole lot to complain about Gates during that time frame.

Re: The making of Jim Simons

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I wonder if anyone has insight into how they have been able to do this consistently in the modern era of quantitative trading (this article had scant detail)? His returns are such an outlier and strategies such a closely guarded secret that they leave people on Wall Street in awe.

To my knowledge, all he has ever said on the subject is: "I think people would be quite surprised if they knew how simple our methods are". You probably won't ever hear more information than that, until their strategies stop working.

Flip side to this - I remember studying a series of papers in statistics/optimisation/machine learning with highly non-trivial content published between 1998 and 2008 by the Della Pietra brothers. I had assumed they were mathematicians/statisticians at some major research university. At the bottom of one of these papers it had some personal blurbs which stated they had both been at RenTech since 1995 working on "statistical methods to model the stock market", which surprised me greatly given the amount of research they output. I assume the content of those papers were applied to their strategies, in which case there would also be a good amount of people who would be surprised if they knew how advanced their methods are. I say this especially in comparison to the "quant" strategies I know many other trading firms use/have used, which are actually often quite simple. Indeed, at some places they seem to think any systematic/automated strategy is "quant"...

Re: The making of Jim Simons

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I wonder if anyone has insight into how they have been able to do this consistently in the modern era of quantitative trading (this article had scant detail)? His returns are such an outlier and strategies such a closely guarded secret that they leave people on Wall Street in awe.

These are some quotes from various interviews -

"But we look at anomalies that may be small in size and brief in time. We make our forecast. Then, shortly thereafter, we reevaluate the situation and revise our forecast and our portfolio. We do this all day long. We're always in and out and out and in. So we're dependent on activity to make money."

Renaissance essentially attempts to predict the future movement of financial instruments, within a specific time frame, using statistical models. The firm searches for something that might be producing anomalies in price movements that can be exploited. At Renaissance they're called "signals." The firm builds trading models that fit the data.

When the trading starts, the models run the show. Renaissance has 20 traders who execute at the lowest cost and without moving markets, crucial requirements for quant investors trading on narrow margins. But the models decide what to buy and sell. Only in cases of extreme volatility, or if the signals appear to be weakening, does the firm sometimes manually cut back. Says Simons, "We don't override the models."

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"We search through historical data looking for anomalous patterns that we would not expect to occur at random. Our scheme is to analyze data and markets to test for statistical significance and consistency over time," says Simons. "Once we find one, we test it for statistical significance and consistency over time. After we determine its validity, we ask, 'Does this correspond to some aspect of behavior that seems reasonable?'"

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Many of the anomalies we initially exploited are intact, though they have weakened some. What you need to do is pile them up. You need to build a system that is layered and layered. And with each new idea, you have to determine, Is this really new, or is this somehow embedded in what we've done already? So you use statistical tests to determine that, yes, a new discovery is really a new discovery. Okay, now how does it fit in? What's the right weighting to put in? And finally you make an improvement. Then you layer in another one. And another one.

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Everyone in the company read the book about LTCM. It makes you wary in a general sense. Our approach is very different. We don't start with models. We start with data. We don't have any preconceived notions. We look for things that can be replicated thousands of times. A trouble with convergence trading is that you don't have a time scale. You say that eventually things will come together. Well, when is eventually?

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https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b151340bp779jn...

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"Have an open atmosphere. The best way to conduct research on a larger scale is to make sure everyone knows what everyone else is doing... The sooner the better - start talking to other people about what you're doing. Because that's what will stimulate things the fastest. No compartmentalization. We don't have any little groups that say. this is our system and we run it we get paid because of it. We meet once a week - all the researchers meet once a week, any new idea gets brought up, discussed, vetted, and hopefully put into production. And people get paid based on the profits of the entire firm. You don't get paid just on your work. You get paid based on the profits pf the firm. So everyone gets paid based on the firm's success."

In sum, the secret is:

"Great people. Great infrastructure. Open environment. Get everyone compensated roughly based on the overall performance... That made a lot of money."

Re: The making of Jim Simons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To my knowledge, all he has ever said on the subject is: "I think people would be quite surprised if they knew how simple our methods are". You probably won't ever hear more information than that, until their strategies stop working.

Flip side to this - I remember studying a series of papers in statistics/optimisation/machine learning with highly non-trivial content published between 1998 and 2008 by the Della Pietra brothers. I had assumed they were mathematicians/statisticians at some major research university. At the bottom of one of these papers it had some personal blurbs which stated they had both been at RenTech since 1995 working on "stat…

Do you remember what the titles of papers? I'd like to read them.
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