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Re: NeverSSL

#131

Post by baby » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 1:33 AM UTC

hk__2 wrote: post #66

http://neverssl.com/changes > I also want to keep neverssl.com ad free, but as it's now costing me about $2,000 a year to host it, […] Wait, how could hosting a static website cost $2k/year?!

that's either a lie, or that's because the owner doesn't care about saving costs.

I've hosted more dynamic webpages with large amount of traffic on servers that were costing me 20$/month.

Re: NeverSSL

#132

Post by wincy » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 1:44 AM UTC

gruez wrote: post #117

ComputerGuru wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that’s not accounting for gzip.

This. Firefox's dev tools says 3.38KB transferred (including redirect and favicon). Taking that into account, it's closer to 5 billion page loads.

Well if he’s getting 6 million a day that’s a little over 2 billion hits a year. Maybe he’s overprovisioned an AWS instance or something.

Re: NeverSSL

#133

Post by morpheuskafka » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:03 AM UTC

I just use captive.apple.com for this purpose--I believe Microsoft and Google have similar domains.

Re: NeverSSL

#134

Post by morpheuskafka » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:11 AM UTC

hk__2 wrote: post #66

http://neverssl.com/changes > I also want to keep neverssl.com ad free, but as it's now costing me about $2,000 a year to host it, […] Wait, how could hosting a static website cost $2k/year?!

You can put an S3 Website behind a Cloudflare distribution (with SSL not enabled) and do it all on the free tier, as far as I know.

Re: NeverSSL

#135

Post by morpheuskafka » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:13 AM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #80

Evanbenn wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

right! they need to set up a cloudflare proxy, or have github host it for example.

I'm pretty sure GitHub would require SSL, no?

Not on a custom domain--it's optional, and you have to have a CAA policy that will allow them to get an SSL cert for your domain and agree to allow them to do so. It's only required for github.io subdomains.

Re: NeverSSL

#136

Post by morpheuskafka » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:14 AM UTC

etskinner wrote: post #6

http://example.com also does this, albeit without the promise of never switching

This is very pedantic, but technically nothing requires an HTTP service to be hosted at example.com. It's only guaranteed to be reserved and never assigned to a real organization at the DNS level.

Re: NeverSSL

#137

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:20 AM UTC

artursapek wrote: post #71

hk__2 wrote: post #66

http://neverssl.com/changes > I also want to keep neverssl.com ad free, but as it's now costing me about $2,000 a year to host it, […] Wait, how could hosting a static website cost $2k/year?!

Bandwidth, maybe? That page is 53.8 KB total. $2k does seem high though.

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Re: NeverSSL

#138

Post by bbernoulli » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:22 AM UTC

ComputerGuru wrote: post #102

maltalex wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A GB of outbound transfer on AWS costs about 0.09$. If the page is 55KB, that means that a single GB is about 18K page loads, but let's make that 15K page loads due to various overhead. To spend 2000$, you'd need to send about 22TB, which are about 330M page loads.

But that’s not accounting for gzip.

I think he's including the transfers from twitter in the 55kb (which is over 50k of it), which wouldn't cost him anything personally

Re: NeverSSL

#139

Post by s09dfhks » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:44 AM UTC

literally used this this weekend at motel6.

Thanks!

Re: NeverSSL

#140

Post by gsich » Sun, Nov 03, 2019, 2:45 AM UTC

test.at