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The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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Post by kd3 »

daerogami wrote: post #68
kd3 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best government is no government.

Only on paper in a utopia. That does not work on a landmass with 327 million people that are trying to engage in commerce, build homes and maintain infrastructure in their communities. You need some managing body to orchestrate the funding, management and execution of a civilization whether its a handful of families or a nation covering half a continent. Having no government for those is a logistical impossibility. B…

Not necessarily a utopia. It could work; if you want an explanation of how check out the following book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd18waixbva1jae/WhatAnarchyIsnt-FR...

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Post by MisterTea »

Ancalagon wrote: post #61
MisterTea wrote: post #45

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> I can't be the only one who gets depressed reading the news on here. ..... This sounds like some conspiracy tinfoil hat old man rant (I swear I'm non of those), but I hear regular "non-tech" people airing the same complaints more and more. It's just disappointing that there isn't an option to not participate I guess. Sorry for the long (mostly off topic) rant Rant on my friend. Rant on. You're not the only one gett…

Was even more crazy, and to your point, even tech that you wouldn't expect to be watching you is now. Google's new wifi router has microphones and speakers in it! This is insanity to me. I've converted my entire tech environment to mostly apple devices, but apple doesn't make everything, and honestly with their new business model I truly believe its only a matter of time until they too start aggregating data like Goo…

Be careful with putting all your eggs into one basket. I'm weathering my Windows 7 desktop but I'm going to move to Linux. I have no desire to move to windows 10 and no interest in Apple products.

As for a router, have a look at the PC Engines apu2 then run pfsense on it.

Re: The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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Post by foxyv »

rayiner wrote: post #46
sramsay wrote: post #24

In 2012, in a concurring opinion on a case involving warrantless GPS tracking, justice Sonya Sotomayor wrote: "More fundamentally, it may be necessary to reconsider the premise that an individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy in information voluntarily disclosed to third parties. This approach is ill suited to the digital age, in which people reveal a great deal of information about themselves to third par…

“Reasonable expectation of privacy” appears nowhere in the constitution. So you’re talking about adding more gloss on what is already a gloss.

While not explicitly mentioned, the right to privacy is guaranteed by the constitution in several ways.

"Although the Bill of Rights does not explicitly mention "privacy", Justice William O. Douglas wrote for the majority that the right was to be found in the "penumbras" and "emanations" of other constitutional protections, such as the self-incrimination clause of the Fifth Amendment. Douglas wrote, "Would we allow the police to search the sacred precincts of marital bedrooms for telltale signs of the use of contraceptives? The very idea is repulsive to the notions of privacy surrounding the marriage relationship." Justice Arthur Goldberg wrote a concurring opinion in which he used the Ninth Amendment in support of the Supreme Court's ruling. Justice Byron White and Justice John Marshall Harlan II wrote concurring opinions in which they argued that privacy is protected by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut

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