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Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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Re: Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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Happiness = Money + Children http://archive.is/LvxSN

yeah, not quite. children actually tend to make you less happy than your peers. at least until they’re old enough to largely fend for themselves. At least in western cultures.

I suspect households with more than 2 adults the equation changes significantly. My experience is every child is a pleasure for 2 hours, no matter how badly they are misbehaving. So a household with enough adults to hand off the children may be able to maximize some kind of child additive happiness, though now you have to deal with added adult drama...

Re: Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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RANT: This is rationally the most interesting topic I've ever read. It's not subjective, this is clearly the currently known most effective way to maximize hapiness and maximizing happiness is the only rational policy: utilitarism.

But there are so many obvious questions unanswered: I incrementing from one volt to another had significant mood alteration, why didn't the doctor improve granulairy,why didn't they tried e.g

If changing from one volt to another has such a big impact on mood alteration, why couldn't they try floats ? (e.g 3.265 volts) Also the happiness benchmarcking should be much more rigorous (we're talking about permanently altering a human mood behavior) e.g how much is increased or decreased the response to stimulis such as consuming music, arts, orgasms, or laugh ability. How much does this affect social behavior, ability to focus, working memory, creativity, etc. Is the alteration only changing baseline well being or does it affect the propensity of having mood spikes (high low, high up). I'm just a random guy on the internet,the scientists should have measured all of this.

Other obvious things: The field should be massively be financed by state research. The voltage should be dynamic in real time and changeable though a smartphone application. Philosophers and data scientists should make consensus on optimal strategies (setting a right voltage for a right situation)

Also, the stimulation only affect one brain region, I expect that the recompense system is far more complex and thus we should have as many electrodes as there are concerned brain regions. Indeed, each with differing voltages.

Deep brain stimulation seems to be the successor of a widely used paradigmatic technology: Psychotrophs. Cannabis mostly have the structure of dopamin and thus can pass the blood brain barrier and stick to dopamin receptors. Here hapiness is controlled chemically not electrically. So can the recompense system be totally controlled electrically or only a subset of moods states/substates can be controlled electrically?

Also, does the stimulation inherit some downsides of cannabis?

Bonus: Instead of having a dynamically changing voltages in real time but in a continous manner, would it be useful to make rapid non continous volts switching having a "rhythm" like a music? Could we create new fine grained feelings on demand?

Re: Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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post #11

Happiness = Money + Children http://archive.is/LvxSN

It's not that simple:

"Children play a part, too. A recent working paper published by NBER finds that children increase the happiness of European parents, especially for the first ten years. Parents become less happy, however, if having children causes them to encounter financial difficulties. It follows, then, that happiness bounces back for financially-stretched parents once those children become financially independent, but decreases for those parents that enjoyed their children in financial comfort."

Re: Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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I kind of skimmed the article, but it did remind me of another one I read about babies. Once a baby gets to the point they express emotions, they will look at their parents and fill with so much joy, their sub-conscious forces them to look away so they can calm down and don't hurt themselves.

Source about babies getting so much joy just by looking at their parents? This seems unlikely or at least hyperbolic.

Re: Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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post #12
post #11

Happiness = Money + Children http://archive.is/LvxSN

yeah, not quite. children actually tend to make you less happy than your peers. at least until they’re old enough to largely fend for themselves. At least in western cultures. I suspect households with more than 2 adults the equation changes significantly. My experience is every child is a pleasure for 2 hours, no matter how badly they are misbehaving. So a household with enough adults to hand off the children may be…

If happiness is living with 12 adults and a child, I’ll take hell every time.

Re: Can You Overdose on Happiness?

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Happiness and suffering are tow sides of the same coin. They follow each other closely. Overdose of happiness will lead to an equal amount of suffering. Better to be indifferent to either and focus on equanimity, peace and harmonY.

Is there scientific evidence that the more we have highly happy moments the more we have highly suffering moments? I does not match my experience of life.
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