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The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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Post by soulnothing »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #38
skummetmaelk wrote: post #9

We have all the ingredients for Minority Report. Recording devices in people's homes (alexa, siri, google). AI inference that can be trained to predict violent crimes based on data from these always on devices. Nation wide person tracking system, just using faces instead of eyeballs. Yes yes, the always on devices are only on when you activate them with a keyword. So what. Once MicroGoogleZon proves that they can "pr…

My girlfriend's cellphone displays ads pertaining to our conversations. No wake word needed when some app has managed to seize mic access.

I've noticed the same thing on android. A number of ads or google feed items. Regarding something I talked about, but didn't search for.

This was while google services was denied access to the microphone. Via android permissions.

I partly miss my phone that had a removable battery. I felt more comfortable that it was fully off. But I know even that isn't fully accurate.

Re: The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system and ACLU is suing

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #41
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My girlfriend's cellphone displays ads pertaining to our conversations. No wake word needed when some app has managed to seize mic access.

Where/when does it display the?

A few seconds later in browser.

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Post by magduf »

sramsay wrote: post #24

In 2012, in a concurring opinion on a case involving warrantless GPS tracking, justice Sonya Sotomayor wrote: "More fundamentally, it may be necessary to reconsider the premise that an individual has no reasonable expectation of privacy in information voluntarily disclosed to third parties. This approach is ill suited to the digital age, in which people reveal a great deal of information about themselves to third par…

>Just wondering when we're actually going to reconsider that premise and its legal cognates.

We're not. It's very simple: you're talking about something like the EU's GPDR. We can't do that, because the EU did it, and since we're America and we're Exceptional, we can't ever copy anything that someone else does. So it'll never happen here.

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Post by stronglikedan »

trenning wrote: post #22

I can't be the only one who gets depressed reading the news on here. Everyday it's another article about your private information being sucked up and sold for advertising or hacked and sold to be used for stealing your identity or other nefarious shit. Then there's the public side of gov't agencies monitoring everything in your life. At any point they can send an email to any tech company and get a full dump of your…

For the record, I don't have a doorbell camera because I'm paranoid - I have it because I'm lazy AF.

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Post by magduf »

drumttocs8 wrote: post #19

Real question- could face surveillance be one of the reasons multiple governments have banned niqabs or face veils?

There have been laws banning masks for ages. There were laws like that in parts of the US well over 100 years ago. It should be pretty obvious why: you can commit a crime with a mask and not be identified.

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Post by sixstringtheory »

tclancy wrote: post #8
chmaynard wrote: post #3

How is this different than the FBI's longstanding fingerprint database? Just asking.

You ever had your fingerprints taken without you knowing and consenting/ being under arrest?

I remember going on a “field trip” to the local police station early in elementary school age where they demonstrated fingerprinting on all 10 digits. Also had an Ident-a-kid ID, which had a thumbprint on it.

While I technically “knew” my fingerprints were being taken, I guess, I certainly was not of any age where I could informedly consent to the action. Who knows what’s happened to them? (Probably nothing, but that’s definitely not a certainty in my mind.)

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Post by tunap »

CapitainEvident wrote: post #2

Original title was too long: The Feds are building an America-wide face surveillance system – and we're going to court to prove it, says ACLU

The freeway system in the US is logging traffic with cameras. This goes far beyond the DOT's cameras in the cities & border patrol checkpoints. Would not be surprised if every mile of concrete/asphalt in the national freeway system is covered by cameras these days.

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Post by kd3 »

linuxftw wrote: post #25

Weird. Nobody wants to limit the authority of the government until the government is infringing upon something they care about. If only there was some concept where we could specifically enumerate powers to the government, and that's all the government was allowed to do.

The best government is no government.
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