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Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by strictnein »

GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

The feeling of never finishing anything is probably the thing I hate must about agile. Just little bits completed off an ever growing backlog.

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Post by mcv »

GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

This has nothing to do with scrum and agile. Or if it does, then they are part of the solution, because one of the rules is that you don't do overtime. If there's too much work to include all features before the deadline, you drop some of the features. Scrum is meant to help estimate based on real work by developers, rather than on overly optimistic planning by managers. They empower the developer and give them the autonomy to do the job the way they see fit.

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by samatman »

mcv wrote: post #12
GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

This has nothing to do with scrum and agile. Or if it does, then they are part of the solution, because one of the rules is that you don't do overtime. If there's too much work to include all features before the deadline, you drop some of the features. Scrum is meant to help estimate based on real work by developers, rather than on overly optimistic planning by managers. They empower the developer and give them the a…

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.

In practice, there is.

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by nbrempel »

I find that If my work isn’t meaningful, it can really drain the life out of me (even more than truly demanding jobs).

I wonder if a couple generations ago people felt just as burnt out. It seems like this generation is the most burnt out but who knows. With everyone connected all the time, I doubt people are getting proper rest between work. If you’re answering emails over lunch, you’re still working and not resting your eyes/brain.

There is a movement[0][1] towards shorter workweeks which I’m really interested in and, shameless plug[2], I run a site on this topic as well. There is real movement right now towards a 4 day work week in Western society especially in the UK.

[0] https://www.4dayweekus.org/

[1] https://www.4dayweek.co.uk/

[2] https://30hourjobs.com

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by aaron-santos »

JTbane wrote: post #10
GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

"Sprint Planning" -> "How much work can we overextend our developers with" "Sprint Retrospective" -> "How much did we screw up from overextending so much"

What does the part of planning that calculates velocity and time budgeting look like in this context?

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by gherkinnn »

GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

Yeah. The notion of sprints doesn’t seem to be healthy at all. There’s always the next big thing on the horizon. No time to reflect on what you’re doing. Closely tracking velocity, knowing full well that it’s a futile exercise in controlling what’s happening.

>inb4 “you’re doing it wrong” If so many people get it wrong, I see it a problem inherent to scrum, not its various implementations.

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by thaumasiotes »

CalRobert wrote: post #8

"Conducted by telecommunications company TollFreeForwarding.com, " an odd source, but OK. I work remote from a place outside the US. Last thanksgiving my boss (from the US) was on Slack. So were... all but one of my US colleagues. I see them writing at all hours of the night. On a work trip it was more or less assumed I'd work from 9 AM (8:30 ish really if you count coffee before) until 10 PM. I'm not on pagerduty an…

> It depends on the industry but there's too many people who are de facto actually at work every waking moment

If "at work every waking moment" means "needs to be able to respond to emergencies", then this is actually the norm for everyone in the world until very recently. Anyone who doesn't have an employer is "at work every waking moment" by this definition. Peasants, housewives, aristocrats...

Given the nearly 100% rate of this for all of history, it seems weird to argue that the current -- much lower -- rate is too high.

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by arvinsim »

mcv wrote: post #12
GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

This has nothing to do with scrum and agile. Or if it does, then they are part of the solution, because one of the rules is that you don't do overtime. If there's too much work to include all features before the deadline, you drop some of the features. Scrum is meant to help estimate based on real work by developers, rather than on overly optimistic planning by managers. They empower the developer and give them the a…

It's funny that some managers give the deadline first and then direct the developers to do Scrum to figure out how to do it in that timeline.

Re: Over a Third of Americans Battle Job Burnout Every Single Week

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Post by rightbyte »

mcv wrote: post #12
GiorgioG wrote: post #3

Sprints? I love sprints...I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel day in, day out. Seriously, screw scrum and 'agile'

This has nothing to do with scrum and agile. Or if it does, then they are part of the solution, because one of the rules is that you don't do overtime. If there's too much work to include all features before the deadline, you drop some of the features. Scrum is meant to help estimate based on real work by developers, rather than on overly optimistic planning by managers. They empower the developer and give them the a…

Not really. Developers are just held accountable or feel accountable for their own forced guesstymates. It was better when managers were guessing becouse they also have the means to change scope.
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