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I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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Yeah, Couchsurfing was incredible.....oh well

Couchsurfing was awesome and partially killed by Airbnb. It was an amazing concept that I used both as a an host and as a guest. Airbnb pushed for the commercialization of every single Square meter (Thanks to VC $$) and now this high trust community is gone forever.

I wouldn't attribute any of the downfall of Couchsurfing to AirBnB, rather the new owners. There are a ton of reasons which were laid out by multiple disgruntled ex-couchsurfers in a myriad of blog-posts. I went looking for some of them but the best I could find was on Quora[0]. For me it was apparent that they new owner only cared about the number of users and proceeded to advertise instead of relying primarily on word-of-mouth, ignoring critical feedback from core members/ambassadors, as well as destroy the usability of the site (e.g. search and the groups got progressively worse), among reasons. The site was rather quickly overwhelmed with people who just wanted a free hotel while they go out and party, while the core community abandoned the site, leaving a vacuum to be filled by people who didn't care about the original "spirit". I went from hosting people every week, making lots of spontaneous trips and organizing events to not being involved at all. This was also true of tens of CS friends, many of whom pleaded with the new management to stop breaking things and to listen to their feedback. I knew at least 15 ambassadors personally who deleted their profiles around the same time all these changes were happening, particularly because their feedback was being completely ignored. I kept my profile up in hopes that things would eventually return... and also out of curiosity about how bad it could really get. Only last month have I received the first "worthy" request, where somebody actually read my profile and seemed to have some of the original couchsurfing spirit. Perhaps things will change again?

[0]: https://www.quora.com/Is-CouchSurfing-dead

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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A family member of mine had something similar happen when using booking.com. She showed up at the hotel and they had sold her booked room to someone else. It was late and a bit of a nightmare to find another place to stay. Overbooking airplanes means someone might be stuck sitting in the terminal for hours. Overbooking.com means someone might be made to drive around late at night, tired, with nowhere to sleep.

> Overbooking airplanes means someone might be stuck sitting in the terminal for hours. It also might mean you miss getting somewhere in an emergency, like visiting a loved one before surgery. And it also might mean you miss things you couldn't miss, like a job interview. One of the worst memories of my life started by missing a flight (and it wasn't my fault).

These days, it's thankfully rare that people are forced off a flight. The worst problems I've had have come from having a flight cancelled with all the next flights fully booked. As long as the airline can point to weather, they don't have to put you up in a hotel or pay your cab fare to get to a flight at another nearby airport.

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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If you do this be prepared to not use the service you do this to ever again.

It's probably best to not use a service that fraudulently charges your credit card anyway.

Just the same it can be annoying to never have access to something like airbnb or uber.

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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Airbnb reviews are practically useless. Numerous of times I've been to 10-20 good-reviewed apartments that ended up too dirty or noisy so I had to go to a hotel.

Also, for no reason Airbnb prohibits from sorting by reviews or price, so I've developed this script - it's super userful: http://sakurity.com/airbnb.js

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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There have been a few threads about AirBnb lately with a lot of people reporting negative experiences so I will add my own $0.02. I have stayed in many AirBnbs. The reason is, I find it is the only way to have a tolerable family vacation is when everyone has their own sleeping quarters. When we are all piled into one (often overpriced and not so clean) hotel room, it makes for less than ideal sleep and everyone ends…

Speaking of "long analyze" have a look at my script - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21420140

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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> Did your agreement to the text (asking for $20 extra) allow him to make the changes? It's this, because technically you are making the changes (by agreeing).

If I understood correctly, then that sounds a bit like a UI issue. The host should never be able to change the dates. I mean, why should they be able to? It's up to the traveller to decide when the stay should take place and the host can either accept or decline.

Agreed. I made a change to the dates of a stay earlier this year (cottage booked on Isle of Skye in the UK). I needed to shift the dates forward by a day or two. This was easily accomplished in the website UI, no direct contact with the host was required. Not sure why the host would ever be able to change booking dates, or really make any changes to the booking after it's confirmed.

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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The one who's travelling has the weakest odds of all. The traveler will be in a foreign place with no place to stay. In contrast, the host has no losing cards except some income. No, the one being scammed has the weakest odds. The "traveler" could in fact be a local scammer who sabotages a property and then has various ways (which I won't detail) for turning a profit on it if the rules favor the "poor traveler". I'm…

Do changes to reservations not have to go through AirBnB already? I feel like they should already be able to audit accounts that change reservation details often. Disclaimer: I have never used AirBnb so I have no clue how it all works.

Changes can be made through the Airbnb website. But, apparently that's not required.

FWIW, the only contact I've ever had from hosts outside the system is emails (which I believe were actually relayed from Airbnb, not sure) and actual in-person contact upon arrival (75% of the time, the host has met me for check-in to hand-off keys, answer questions, and show me any oddities in the home).

Re: I Accidentally Uncovered a Nationwide Scam on Airbnb

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The traveller is penalised the full price of the stay if they cancel late. Why is the host not penalised the same amount (which would then be credited to the traveller as compensation)?

Hosts are punished. I have had it happen to me when I had an unintentional overbooking on a property I owned.

How does the overbooking occur? Are you using multiple services and then managing across services manually?
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